[AccessD] OT: Anybody out there?

Sun Jan 12 08:15:10 CST 2025

Sorry, a bit late to that party.
but at least I wish you all had nice holidays and I hope you all will have a 
good 2025.
I was on a cruise holiday and did not expect so many mails.
Thank you all.
Rocky, I have heared about the catastrophic fire in LA. I hope you are still 
safe.

Best wished to everyone from
Lembit in Bavaria

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
From: James Button via AccessD
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2025 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: jamesbutton at blueyonder.co.uk
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Anybody out there?

Major problems I, as a been trying for many years to be a retiree,
Have found -

1) With no work associates,
Have to get clients to accept
Work is on
"a best efforts basis".

That means you have to be available
@ no charge
To discuss what the user considers a problem with your work.

2) Professional indemnity insurance is a huge oncost -
As in a 10 year insurance on a 3 month contract takes a large bite from the 
payment.
Add in requirements to guarantee no use of other person's code or design's -
So - technically, nothing from any documented information -
Even Microsoft user guides - e.g. the examples of using an API, Command, 
Function, or VBA script.

3) Consideration if you are unable to provide the needed support -
Temporary sickness, short term, long term,  comatose, deceased,
Or just not able to be in a place to do the needed work !

4)
Detail that you only support versions that MS is providing full support for
And do not accept liability for the effect of any of the actions of the 
systems facility suppliers, or the client, and their agents.
Having the same setup as the client -
Teams, OS version(s) Application version(s) and fix level -
Win Home/Pro 10, or 11
Office - Basic, home, student, business, Pro, Pro-plus.
E1, E3,E 5 etc. school, college, university, small business, corporate, 
government -

And the communication/delivery as well as updates, and getting the data that 
is causing them problems.
Via their IT department,
Or is the data confidential, and restricted from the IT crowd too!

Access to their systems - Remotely, so that no backups etc. are on, or in 
your system or property !

5) Agreed cost for minor changes to meet ongoing needs
Agreed indication of what is a minor change, a major change, one required by 
environment, OS and App changes

Copyright - with you, or are the results of your efforts theirs to "use", 
"modify", and/or sell, or distribute.

Maybe set an agreed charge for them to take over that as a formal sale, and 
as compensation for any breach of your rights -
Well you have to provide PI -
And you don't anticipate them breaching the agreements - so the charge is 
merely for clarity

Sort of like the sign saying what the daily charge and management, handling, 
transport, storage, and disposal terms are
for someone using your driveway without having acquired  prior authority for 
the specific items and periods of use of those locations.
Similar to
"Unauthorised parking here - will cost you this, and this, and this, and 
possibly these costs too !"

JimB

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Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 10:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Anybody out there?

Thanks for the advice.
I'm only a first-time retiree, not a repeat offender, so I've yet to learn
how to define and explain myself.  I've committed myself to a handover
phase but it seems that while it ain't broke that isn't even starting.
Officially retired seemed like a good enough shortcut explanation.

Two weeks ago I gained the honour of being able to call myself a first time
grandfather.  That has helped to redefine myself.  FWIW I'm 69.

On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 at 17:50, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
wrote:

> What is thie "retire" that you speak of? I'm not familiar with the concept
> :)
>
> Turning 76 in another month and I just picked up an Information System
> project with a new
> client.
>
>
> On 2 Jan 2025 at 19:59, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>
> > Paul:
> >
> > I "officially" retired a couple of months ago by notifying my
> > remaining three clients that they needed to find someone else to keep
> > their apps running.
> >
> > But emotionally retired a couple of years ago. Be advised. It's a very
> > seductive lifestyle.
> >
> > You'll have to redefine yourself/ If you're not Joe Programmer, who
> > are you?
> >
> > Best wishes for your new life,
> >
> > r
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 6:55PM Paul Wolstenholme <
> > Paul.W at industrialcontrol.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> > > Belated Christmas greetings and a happy New Year from sunny New
> > > Zealand. Apologies for ignoring you for so long but it is the summer
> > > holidays and I officially retired 6 weeks ago.
> > >
> > > Paul Wolstenholme
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 at 17:19, John Bartow <jbartow at winhaven.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are you saying that the hard-core lurkers haven't chimed in yet?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > John R Bartow
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: AccessD
> > > > <accessd-bounces+jbartow=winhaven.net at databaseadvisors.com
> > > >
> > > > On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2024 7:49 PM
> > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <
> > > > accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Anybody out there?
> > > >
> > > > Acccording to my 14 years of list archive:
> > > >
> > > >  Rik only posted once in April 2017
> > > >  Ram Z only posted 5 times in 2011.
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Stuart
> > > >
> > > > On 27 Dec 2024 at 15:38, Susan Harkins wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you. You are new to me. Welcome!
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 2:37 AM Rik Vankeirsbilck
> > > > > <rik.vankeirsbilck at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Susan
> > > > > > Its me from Belgium
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Op vr 27 dec 2024 om 00:05 schreef Susan Harkins
> > > > > > <ssharkins at gmail.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And I am meeting new friends for the first time. Welcome!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Susan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Ram Z <ramzcbu at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from Waterloo, Canada -
> > > > > > > > Ramil
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu., Dec. 26, 2024, 2:06 p.m. Susan Harkins,
> > > > > > > > <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We truly are a global entity. Amazing!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2024, 5:39 AM paul <paulrster at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > And big big best Christmas wishes from a cold but
> > > > > > > > > > (thankfully)
> > > > > > > > snow-free
> > > > > > > > > > London...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2024, 17:04 Martin,
> > > > > > > > > > <martinreid at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Merry Christmas from rainy Ireland
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2024, 12:13 Helmut Kotsch via
> > > > > > > > > > > AccessD, < accessd at databaseadvisors.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Merry Christmas from Germany :)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Helmut
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Im Auftrag von Gustav Brock via AccessD
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Dezember 2024 10:39
> > > > > > > > > > > > An: Access Developers discussion and problem
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Brock Betreff: [AccessD] OT: Anybody out there?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > For those of you still online: Merry Christmas
> > > > > > > > > > > > from Denmark!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > /gustav
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