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<P><FONT SIZE=2><I have found they are only good for getting hired at the types of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>organization that I don't want to work for></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>ROFL!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Jim Hale</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Wortz, Charles [<A HREF="mailto:CWortz@tea.state.tx.us">mailto:CWortz@tea.state.tx.us</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:47 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: accessd@databaseadvisors.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>As one that has acquired many degrees and many certifications over the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>years, I have found they are only good for getting hired at the types of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>organization that I don't want to work for. I prefer working where I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>enjoy the work and they value my performance, not my degrees and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>certificates. I no longer even list any of my degrees and certificates</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>on my business card.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Charles Wortz</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Software Development Division</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Texas Education Agency</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>1701 N. Congress Ave</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Austin, TX 78701-1494</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>512-463-9493</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>CWortz@tea.state.tx.us</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Porter, Mark [<A HREF="mailto:MPorter@acsalaska.com">mailto:MPorter@acsalaska.com</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Tuesday 2003 Jun 10 12:14</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: 'accessd@databaseadvisors.com'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I got tired of the certification and recertification mess before I even</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>passed my first one. New ones came out (or were comming out) before I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>could complete my current ones.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I'm pursuing a Masters in IT instead. At least they don't expire.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: John Colby [<A HREF="mailto:jcolby@colbyconsulting.com">mailto:jcolby@colbyconsulting.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:24 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: accessd@databaseadvisors.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>You hardly have to worry about that. In a year the entire set of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>technology from MS will be different, with new exams to take. Let's</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>just hope that they get a raise for every exam they pass. That'll teach</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>management to implement such silliness.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>John W. Colby</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>www.colbyconsulting.com</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: accessd-bounces@databaseadvisors.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>[<A HREF="mailto:accessd-bounces@databaseadvisors.com">mailto:accessd-bounces@databaseadvisors.com</A>]On Behalf Of Christopher</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Hawkins</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:12 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: accessd@databaseadvisors.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I apologize if this drives the discussion off-track, but I have to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>ask...what happens when you've passed all the exams? No more raises,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>ever?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-Christopher-</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>---- Original Message ----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: R.Griffiths@bury.gov.uk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: AccessD@databaseadvisors.com,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT? - Certification</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:03:06 +0100</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>>Hi</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Our management have decided to tie our salaries to passing MS .Net </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>certification exams. Does anyone one have any books recommendations </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>(or other resources) specific to passing MCSA and MCSE?</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Many thanks</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Richard</FONT>
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