<DIV>Hey Don, I shared this with my Supervisor and we had the greatest laugh. You are right on the nail<BR><BR><B><I>Don Elliker <delliker@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">It would probably be managed better in the other direction. Either secure <BR>the application/BE files or folders in which they are kept. Then you (or the <BR>Big Chief) need not wonder (too much) who's accessing tables - that really <BR>is a Big Chief question....boy they can sure ask 'em - "Hey, I want to know <BR>everybody who has EVER parked around my parking space- I got a ding in my <BR>Beemer!!"<BR>_d<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Things are only free to the extent that you don't pay for them".-Don <BR>Elliker<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>>From: Lonnie Johnson <PRODEVMG@YAHOO.COM><BR>>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem <BR>>solving<ACCESSD@DATABASEADVISORS.COM><BR>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem <BR>>solving<ACCESSD@DATABASEADVISORS.COM><BR>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Who is linked to my back end?<BR>>Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:22:21 -0700
(PDT)<BR>><BR>>You raise some great issues here John. I thank you again for your thoughts.<BR>><BR>>However, I was reaching a bit in a different. I was wanting to know of <BR>>ANYONE and EVERYONE that had a link to a particular table in my back end no <BR>>matter if they were using it or not.<BR>><BR>>I have an officer of the company wanting to know who could be linked to a <BR>>particular table. It would have likely been via the linked table <BR>>manager/wizard.<BR>><BR>>Thanks again.<BR>><BR>>John Colby <JCOLBY@COLBYCONSULTING.COM>wrote:<BR>>AFAIK, JET and only JET "knows" the internals of the Access db. It creates<BR>>the lock db and it handles requests for data from an MDB from requesters<BR>>such as DAO and ADO.<BR>><BR>>It does indeed give one pause. This is a sore point with the use of an MDB.<BR>>OTOH, can you "ask" SQL Server who is accessing a given table at the <BR>>moment?<BR>>I don't have the answer to
that. Now that someone has asked, it seems a<BR>>logical thing to do, or at the very least ask who has accessed a given <BR>>table<BR>>(historical). The problem is that there are so many paths in to data. A<BR>>document in word could do a mail merge. That document could be opened from<BR>>a VB front end remotely. "who" is asking for the data? The document? The<BR>>user of the machine that used automation to open the document? And if the<BR>>request comes from the web... how in the world do you determine who asked<BR>>for the data. At best you would get an application as the requester.<BR>><BR>>John W. Colby<BR>>www.colbyconsulting.com<BR>><BR>>-----Original Message-----<BR>>From: accessd-bounces@databaseadvisors.com<BR>>[mailto:accessd-bounces@databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Don Elliker<BR>>Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:34 PM<BR>>To: accessd@databaseadvisors.com<BR>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Who is linked to my back
end?<BR>><BR>><BR>>Not for nothing, but, SOMEthing is writing that LDB and seems to know a bit<BR>>about the access to the Db. I wonder if any fields in the system tables are<BR>>storing access information? I must say, I have never really looked to see<BR>>how the LDB file gets created, etc. -but it gives one pause,no?<BR>>_d<BR>><BR>><BR>>"Things are only free to the extent that you don't pay for them".-Don<BR>>Elliker<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> >From: Lonnie Johnson<BR>><BR>> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem<BR>> >solving<BR>> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem<BR>> >solving<BR>> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Who is linked to my back end?<BR>> >Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:25:16 -0700 (PDT)<BR>> ><BR>> >Thank you John. We don't always get the answer we want, but at least we<BR>> >know what direction to go from there. I appreciate you taking the time
to<BR>> >respond.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >John Colby wrote:<BR>> >Boy, now there is a million dollar question. My best guess would be no.<BR>> >If you think about it, accesses to the table may not even be done via<BR>> >"links" which implies an Access FE. The access to the tables may come <BR>>from<BR>> >VB, a web page etc. All of these could use DAO or ADO.<BR>> ><BR>> >I think the best that you can do is look at the LDB (lock file) and see <BR>>who<BR>> >is CURRENTLY using the db. This method is far from reliable however since<BR>> >there are cases where "user data" is not cleaned out of this file when <BR>>the<BR>> >user shuts down abnormally etc.<BR>> ><BR>> >John W. Colby<BR>> >www.colbyconsulting.com<BR>> >-----Original Message-----<BR>> >From: accessd-bounces@databaseadvisors.com<BR>> >[mailto:accessd-bounces@databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Lonnie Johnson<BR>> >Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:49 PM<BR>> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<BR>> >Subject: [AccessD] Who is linked to my back end?<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >In a case of a "back end" holding data and various "front end <BR>>interfaces",<BR>> >is there a way to determine who or what is linked to the back end? Any<BR>> >script I can run on the back end to determine what is linked to it and <BR>>what<BR>> >tables is that other database looking at?<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Lonnie Johnson<BR>> >ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases<BR>> >Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >---------------------------------<BR>> >Do you Yahoo!?<BR>> >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site
design<BR>> >software_______________________________________________<BR>> >AccessD mailing list<BR>> >AccessD@databaseadvisors.com<BR>> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd<BR>> >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Lonnie Johnson<BR>> >ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases<BR>> >Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >---------------------------------<BR>> >Do you Yahoo!?<BR>> >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software<BR>> >_______________________________________________<BR>> >AccessD mailing list<BR>> >AccessD@databaseadvisors.com<BR>> >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd<BR>> >Website:
http://www.databaseadvisors.com<BR>><BR>>_________________________________________________________________<BR>>STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*<BR>>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail<BR>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>AccessD mailing list<BR>>AccessD@databaseadvisors.com<BR>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd<BR>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>AccessD mailing list<BR>>AccessD@databaseadvisors.com<BR>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd<BR>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>Lonnie Johnson<BR>>ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases<BR>>Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>---------------------------------<BR>>Do you
Yahoo!?<BR>>Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software<BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>AccessD mailing list<BR>>AccessD@databaseadvisors.com<BR>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd<BR>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com<BR><BR>_________________________________________________________________<BR>STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* <BR>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>AccessD mailing list<BR>AccessD@databaseadvisors.com<BR>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd<BR>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><DIV>
<DIV>
<P align=center><STRONG>Lonnie Johnson<BR></STRONG><STRONG>ProDev</STRONG>, Professional Development of MS Access Databases<BR>Visit me at ==> <A href="http://www.prodev.us/">http://www.prodev.us</A></P>
<P><BR><A href="http://www.galaxymall.com/software/PRODEV"><BR></A><BR> </P></DIV></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
Do you Yahoo!?<br>
<a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=10469/*http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com">Yahoo! SiteBuilder</a> - Free, easy-to-use web site design software