[dba-SQLServer] Who's using my db?

Mackin, Christopher CMackin at quiznos.com
Thu Dec 9 10:04:21 CST 2004


Well my data is sensitive, but not life altering, and I don't want to even begin to try to explain the details of the how's and why's of why it is the way it is, but it's going to be that way for the forseeable future.

I was specifically looking for EM and QA connections to the database, but there may be nothing on the BE that can facilitate that, I will investigate various traces and see if anything in there helps.  Will post the info if I find anything worthwhile.

-Chris

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence (AccessD)
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:55 AM
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Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Who's using my db?


There is a data that is a lot more sensitive than HR information. The
government has pools of data such as 'Search Warrants', 'On going
Investigation' (local, regional and international), 'Criminal record
searchable data', 'Judge Rotation Data', 'Gang investigations', 'Privy
Consul seconds' etc...

Much of this type of data is not accessible by even senior staff... How
would techs be chosen to manage such information?

Jim

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[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Elam,
Debbie
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:37 AM
To: 'dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer] Who's using my db?


I have encountered this too.  I had to put together a temporary repository
for HR data once.  The HR people carefully gave me fake data at first to
test so there would be no privacy violations.  I told them their diligence
was admirable, but useless.  I could not administer the system without
having access to the data in it anyway.  To make it even worse, I had only
recently been hired after one of the shortest hiring cycles ever seen.
(Told the job existed and had an interview scheduled the next morning, hired
that afternoon)  This company keeps the payroll computer off of the LAN for
just this reason though.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Breen [mailto:mark.breen at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:39 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Who's using my db?


Hello Jim,

If I understand Christopher correctly (and sorry to all if I do not),
he is talking about a sys admin person going in using EM or SQL
Analyser and reading raw tables.  Of course this person has rights to
do anything on the SQL server (from a technical perspective) but
morally they do not have rights to read the data.

This raises a whole other question: Companies employ senior managers
to look after highly confidential issues, such as HR or other
sensitive and then they employ young guys and gals to be sys admins,
paid Euro 25k per annun and the young guy or gal had rights to the
entire network.  This is wrong, but what are the alternatives?

Some young guy comes in off the street, joins the IT department to
just install PCs and has access to confidential data.  More rights
that senior managers in the company.  My gripe is not with the
unfairness to the senior manager, what I am concerned with it that the
industry seems to have overlooked this front door access that we give
to this select group of employees without concern to normal security
issues.

What do you all think




On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:10:10 -0800, Jim Lawrence (AccessD)
<accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Christopher:
>
> Is it not possible to have the data on the SQL only accessed through SPs
or
> views. In each of these SPs there would be a function call that would
write
> a record of it's access to a transaction log table. This technique is done
> through all POS systems to track the users, access dates, times and any
> changes made to the invoice records.
>
> It all depends on your permissions on the BE.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mackin, Christopher [mailto:CMackin at quiznos.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:57 AM
> > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Who's using my db?
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to track/view a log of users
> > that have accessed information on the Server and specifically at the
> > Database level?
> >
> > There are users authorized to view a particular db with confidential
> > information, and I need to verify that no other users are accessing this
> > data.  In this situation it's rather complex because security keeps out
> > the majority of people, but there are certain people with the sa
> > password and admin rights on the server that should not be looking
> > either.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Chris Mackin
>
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