Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Tue Aug 29 17:59:11 CDT 2006
Definitely not Franciso's fault... I never asked as I did not know that I did not know until I knew. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:35 PM To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Transferring a database to another SQL Server Methinks this is not the esteemed Francisco's fault ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:43:13 PM Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Transferring a database to another SQL Server Fancisco: Now that would have been helpful about a month ago when it took a week to migrate something that should have taken minutes. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:02 AM To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Transferring a database to another SQL Server In order to prevent orphaned users, MS put out a script called sp_help_revlogin you create it in the master database, details are on my blog, http://sqlthis.blogspot.com/2006/01/migrating-logins-from-one-sql-server.htm l if you get lost from the links post back and I'll help you through it. On 8/29/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote: > >The simple answer was given to him (JC) in the first post back to him. > Which is why I never chimed in. > > >Detach it. > >Copy it to the other machine. > >Attach it. > > In fact that is only one of my two questions, but given my reception on the > other question I suppose I should just not ask again. > > In fact I have RTFM (in advance of even asking AAMOF) and I found stuff > about disconnecting / reconnecting possibly causing "orphaned users", this > being caused by the use of something like a PK from the OS user to represent > the user in the SQL Server login, and even though the user name is the same > on the two machines, the UserID is not necessarily the same. It does make > me a bit leery of going the disconnect route. > > I had hoped to get both machines seeing the other (SQL Servers) and then see > if I could just query directly out of a table in one SQL Server and transfer > the data into the same table (new/empty) in the other SQL Server. I know I > can export the data to text files and then re-import back in, but given the > fact that the data is hundreds of gigabytes, I don't even want to go there > if I can avoid it. > > Unfortunately I do not know enough about SQL Server / networking to > troubleshoot the "why" of two servers not seeing each other, and given that > the list Gurus specifically want me to go become a SQL / Notwork DBA before > I ask such questions, it seems that I will get no assistance on that here. > > I have the database on 5 250gb drives, which I suppose I shall disconnect > and then simply move the entire disks and pray for the best. > > There are other forums I belong to though, I'll also go see if anyone can > help. This is going to be a lot of data and eventually I will need machines > preprocessing and then shipping the results to a central server, so the > servers really do eventually need to see each other I think. It should be > fun, and I should learn a lot, though perhaps not here. > > Thanks Stewart, > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. > Stewart > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:16 AM > To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Transferring a database to another SQL Server > > As to why we are all here, it is to learn and hopefully help when we KNOW > the answer. > > The simple answer was given to him (JC) in the first post back to him. > Which is why I never chimed in. > > Detach it. > Copy it to the other machine. > Attach it. > > KISS - Keep it Supremely Simple > > Always works for me. > > Robert > > At 08:40 AM 8/29/2006, you wrote: > >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:17:25 +0930 > >From: "Haslett, Andrew" <andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au> > >Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] > > [AccessD]TransferringadatabasetoanotherSQLServer > >To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com> > >Message-ID: > > > ><0A870603A2A816459078203FC07F4CD2BE403C at adl01s055.ilcorp.gov.au> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > >Suit yourselves - Seems to be a bit of a 'boys' club who are quite > >happy to ask for advice but only accept it when its something they want > >to hear, and ignore it otherwise (demonstrated throughout the post > >below) > > > >The points I made in my post apply to anyone looking to undertake > >similar issues, and will continue to happen until someone has the guts > >to say it, irrelevant of who it is aimed at (which is how it should be > >-> on a public forum, favour or protection should not be given to > >anyone simply because they are friends, associates or seniority). > > > >Ask yourself this -> Would you have made the same post Jim, had it not > >have been aimed at Mr Colby?. > > > >Stark realities occasionally need be surfaced in order for them to sink > >in.. Irrespective of the target or consequences. Was it harsh? > >Yup. Could it perhaps prevent someone else from making the same > >mistakes and undertaking projects without due preparation and planning? > >Hopefully, and therefore I believe useful. > > > >John asked Stuart "Why are you here then?". Some of us prefer to > >assist others, pass on what knowledge they can and in my case attempt > >to 'help others, help themselves', as opposed to just feeding of > >others. > > > >I know of a number who have left this (and the Access) list in the > >past, including myself, for similar reasons and 'Matesmenship' in the > >upper echelons. > > > >Please unsubscribe me from the list. > > > >Andrew > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- -Francisco http://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon! http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More... _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com