[dba-SQLServer] What is going on

Michael Maddison michael at ddisolutions.com.au
Wed Nov 1 19:06:27 CST 2006


 Hi John,

You are out of my league but... a couple of ideas come to mind.

Set the database recovery Model to simple.

Turn off Auto update and auto create statistics.

Drop any/all indexes on the table.  You can script the drop + create so
you can add them back later.

If you have calculated fields drop them. (add em back later)

Set the database size to double what you think the largest it should be.

Turn off auto grow.

Shrink the log, it shouldn't grow too much on simple recovery...

Check your event log, may be some info there.

In short, try and stop as many extra processes during the import as
possible...  might help.

 http://www.sswug.org  has good info and it own mailing lists.

cheers

Michael Maddison

DDI Solutions Pty Ltd
michael at ddisolutions.com.au
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Mob: 0412620497
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-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 9:52 AM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

LOL, borderline insanity.  I can assure you that I am FULLY insane.
Bwaaa haaaa haaaa.  I am using SP Pro.  SQL Server ran just fine on 2K
pro, XP Pro is the 2K Pro base code.  Why would it not run on that?  I
keep hearing that it isn't supposed to, but it does.  I can tell you I
would be irritated beyond belief if I went to Win 2003 server (which I
have but haven't a clue how to install, since this is a desktop machine
in the end) and I still had this issue.

I actually tried to install 2003 server (in fact I have a disk with the
beginnings of the install) and got to questions that implied I was
supposed to know what I was doing (and I don't) so how am I supposed to
install 2003 so that I can test your theory?

I am not a notwork / OS admin, I am a developer.  MS themselves push SQL
Server lite as a developer tool.  

If anyone wants to talk me through a 2003 server install I will do that
but...

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:19 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

Hi John:

I am trying to cover all the bases. The problems initially appears to be
with the MS SQL sever setting as they run fairly indendendantly from an
OS.
If the problem is not in the MS SQL setup, accumulating non responsive
results sort of negates the hardware being the issue, then it has to be
in the process. 

If it is absolutely not in the process then it must be in the MS SQL
settings.

Please tell me you are using server OS as it would be border-line
insanity to use a desktop type OS and then I would assure you, without
hesitation, that that is the problem.

HTH
Jim    

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:12 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

Jim,

I don't understand what this is doing for me.  I have just one data file
ATM.  I don't know whether that is a good thing or a bad thing.  This
sounds like the process for creating and then redistributing data
amongst multiple files.  If you are saying that it is the existence of
one huge file that is causing my slowdown, then I can certainly do that.




I have to ask if this is as good as it gets with SQL Server.  I
understand that I am doing stuff with big tables but keerimeny.  I
started the build of a PKID field on the big table.  It tells me that
"ansi nulls was not on and it has to rebuild the table" so I do.  EM
just locks up tight, won't even redraw the screen (blank white) if you
switch away and back again.  I believe that it is hard at work but
folks, this is the age of threads.

So I open another instance of EM to work with another table.  EM takes
several seconds to expand each tree (server, databases, specific
database) then when I try to expand the tables, the second instance of
EM locks up tight with an hourglass.  I mean c'mon.  This is 2006, a
monster (desktop) system and EM acts as if it is a DOS app from 1986
running on a '286 with 4 megs and swapping memory.  The second EM
instance has been trying to open the tables icon just to show me what
tables are there for 20 minutes now.

To say this is discouraging to work with would be an understatement.  If
this is the best I am going to get I am going to have to look for
another database engine to work with.

And the most discouraging part is that my dual proc system is cruising
along using (average?) well under 25% of the processor while EM is
locked up tight.

Does SQl Server 2005 fix any of this?  Or should I just go look at MySQL
or Oracle personal edition.  I have to get work done on this database
and it is telling me that one job (building a field / index) on one
table is all it can handle.  And by the looks of it I will be locked out
of this database for the next 12 to 24 hours.  

Hell, ACCESS can do better than this!!!  Well, maybe not but SQL
Server's rep is taking a beating here.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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