[dba-SQLServer] Being helpful

Perhaps we can all make it a practice or habit to present a workable
solution first (with code and comments as much as possible) AND THEN include
best practices to explain why the code we recommended is the way to go.

I'm sure that we would all appreciate getting a quick-turn-around solution
AND a best practices RELATED to the solution. For the most part we all have
priorities...

1. Get the job done as quick and efficiently as possible to satisfy our
customers
2. Develop systems and procedures using the quick solutions as a spring
board. Sometimes we will need to align our quick and dirty solutions with
best practices.

And let's not forget that when someone takes the time to explain their
situation (like JC) with detailed information, they are honestly seeking
solutions that will work for their immediate situation AND the future as
well. 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:54 AM
To: 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server'
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Being helpful

Francisco, that is all true.  However TONE inserted in the best practices is
inflammatory and needs to be addressed.

I also think that best practices can and should be carved out into separate
threads of their own, as they tend to degrade into debates about the best
practices.  Another issue is that "best practices" is often just not useful
to someone at my level.  It is absolutely useful to you, but this is my
thread, trying to get an answer to my question.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:12 AM
To: Discussion concerning MS SQL Server
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] Being helpful

John,
  I've come back to you on the basis that this new thread even has to get
started. All posts are welcomed so long as they are ontopic. Read the
database asvisors netiquette rules. Best of practices are completly within
scope, I see that type of posts on the access list all the time. Because on
this list we deal with really big dbs in general, best of practices are
completly appropriate.





On 3/27/08, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Francisco,
>
> Everyone on this list needs to:
>
> 1) READ THE QUESTION.
> 2) RESPOND TO THE QUESTION, in a manner that is at all likely to be 
> useful to the person asking the question.
> 3) Leave the lectures to a new thread of your own making.
>
> Francisco,
>
> You keep coming back to ME.  I asked a simple question and got useless 
> junk and lectures about the right way to do things.  I got exactly TWO 
> responses that were useful and indicated that the respondent even 
> LOOKED at my question, one from Elizabeth and another from James, both 
> of
whom I thanked.
>
> Robert writes a Doctoral thesis and then inserts crap like "now you 
> can go learn enough to even be worthy of being here" and you don't say 
> a word.  If you want to be a moderator why don't you step in at the 
> very beginning and ask the people to respond to the questions in a 
> useful and civil manner, at a level likely to be useful to the person.
> I don't need their lectures, and I don't need yours (and I don't need 
> a
Doctoral thesis).
>
> Please everybody, do not respond to the thread unless you have 
> actually READ it and are willing to write answers on my level.  And 
> start your own threads if you want to discuss "the right way to" or 
> "how you should NEVER" or write a Doctoral thesis, or anything else 
> not
directly related to my question.
>
> The question is not answered, though I am certainly on my way, and 
> have started another thread to discuss it further.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com


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