Mark Breen
marklbreen at gmail.com
Sat Oct 15 02:42:52 CDT 2011
Hello Arthur, I hope I do not offend you with my suggestion. If you, like me, two or three years ago, have never really built a website, then take a look at google apps. It allows you to build websites with no programming. They are fun to do, easy to manage, it is all online and for companies with less than ten emails addresses, it is free. It is not RnR, but you would build 5 - 10 sites a month easily. And people love playing with it themselves, so you can hand it over and forget about it. Just a contrast with the heavy work that we sometimes have to struggle with, Mark On 15 October 2011 07:58, Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>wrote: > > Hey Arthur, > > Have you considered maybe going down a more conventional route, instead of > RoR. RoR is pretty awesome, but it takes a lot of investment upfront to > understand all the abstract concepts and all the scaffolding, which folks > who have been there since early Ruby days take for granted, since they've > seen it evolve. > > I might suggest instead something like Python + Django or, if you haven't > got a deep-seated, irrational hatred of PHP, something like Symfony (my > personal favourite) or Zend Framework. All of these are very fine web > frameworks, which do a good job of taking out all the tediousness of web > development. But, no matter what, you will still need to learn few basic > abstract concepts (and I'm not making any assumptions of your knowledge or > capability) like MVC and basic patterns. If its not something you are > already familiar with, its something you will find invaluable for any future > software project you take on, regardless of language or goal. > > RoR is a lot of this, just plus a ton of scaffolding that takes time before > its intuitive (plus - python and php are much more familiar languages; > similar to C compared to Ruby), which is why perhaps it has a bit of a > learning curve. > > - Hans > > > On 2011-10-14, at 5:50 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > > > Could be, but I have no clue how to build a web siie, so count me out of > > this thread. I a \my trying to learn RoR but I can't even get that to > work. > > I think it best to return to the garageage and fork the altertanetives. > > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:31 AM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com > >wrote: > > > >>> This is great news. (John you are so lucky! ;-)) > >> > >> LOL. Are you telling me my future is in building web sites? > >> > >> John W. Colby > >> Colby Consulting > >> > >> Reality is what refuses to go away > >> when you do not believe in it > >> > >> > >> On 10/13/2011 11:30 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > >> > >>> After a much speculation, Microsoft has announced they are officially > >>> moving > >>> into the Map Reduced world of NOSQL. It seems that Hadoop, from Apache, > >>> will > >>> be fully integrated into MS SQL 2012 and Azure. > >>> > >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/**2011/10/12/microsoft_hadoop_** > >>> integration_sql_ser< > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/12/microsoft_hadoop_integration_sql_ser > > > >>> ver/ > >>> > >>> This is great news. (John you are so lucky! ;-)) > >>> Jim > >>> > >>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>> dba-SQLServer mailing list > >>> dba-SQLServer@**databaseadvisors.com < > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com> > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver< > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver> > >>> http://www.databaseadvisors.**com <http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > >>> > >>> > >>> ______________________________**_________________ > >> dba-SQLServer mailing list > >> dba-SQLServer@**databaseadvisors.com < > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com> > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/**mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver< > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver> > >> http://www.databaseadvisors.**com <http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-SQLServer mailing list > > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-SQLServer mailing list > dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >