John Colby
jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Thu Aug 28 12:20:02 CDT 2003
Mainly because the windows built-in backup is soooooo crappy I could never figure out how to use it? Even when I could, I could never get it to back up to anything except tape. John W. Colby www.colbyconsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Erwin Craps Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:34 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures Yes but this wont deleted removed files!!! Why don't you just use the backup in windows and backup to a file??? Erwin Craps Zaakvoerder www.ithelps.be/jonathan This E-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and E-mail confirmation to the sender. IT Helps - I.T. Help Center *** Box Office Belgium & Luxembourg www.ithelps.be * www.boxoffice.be * www.stadleuven.be IT Helps bvba* ** Mercatorpad 3 ** 3000 Leuven IT Helps * Phone: +32 16 296 404 * Fax: +32 16 296 405 E-mail: Info at ithelps.be Box Office ** Fax: +32 16 296 406 ** Box Office E-mail: Staff at boxoffice.be -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: John Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Verzonden: donderdag 28 augustus 2003 14:37 Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Onderwerp: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures BTW, I generated a batch file that copies all of the CHANGED files from a given path to another path. I then run that from my windows scheduler once a day. The batch file looks like: xcopy d:\dev e:\Backup\dev /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy d:\C2DbClientBilling e:\Backup\C2DbClientBilling /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy d:\Clients e:\Backup\Clients /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy d:\COLBYCONSULTING e:\Backup\COLBYCONSULTING /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy d:\ColbyConsultingWebNew e:\Backup\ColbyConsultingWebNew /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy d:\NVFCNew e:\Backup\NVFCNew /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy d:\Projects e:\Backup\Projects /E /Y /C /M /I xcopy "c:\dOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS" "e:\Backup\documents and settings" /E /Y /C /M /I As you can see, I am simply doing an XCopy from my D:\Dev to e:\Backup. This copies the entire directory the first time. The switches cause the copy to only copy CHANGED files, thus the second and subsequent times the xcopy is darned fast. However if I create a new client directory in my dev (development) directory, it is automatically backed up. In this case, the E: drive is a second physical drive in the same machine. However there is no reason why it couldn't be a mapped drive on a completely different machine, or for that matter even a ftp up to a directory on the net if I wanted to pay for disk storage out there. I call this "backup on the cheap" John W. Colby www.colbyconsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:22 AM To: '[dba-Tech]' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures Arthur, Just to be clear, are we talking about your personal computers, or clients? Because, with today's prices on hard drive storage, why bother with removable media? Just put your images on another hard drive. For personal use, I would doubt that most people using removable media for backups are using it as it was intended...off-site storage. Unless you are storing your backups off-site, another hard drive serves the same purpose, is faster, and in the long run, a cost efficient alternative. I just purchased 2 160GB disks to go along with my 2 80GB drives. With all the discounts and rebates each 7200 RPM, 160GB drive with 8MB cache cost just $100 USD. That seems like plenty of room for images;) Mark -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:09 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures My chief problem is that the hard disks are so big now (80GB) that I need a DVD burner to put the backups on! It reminds of the bad old days when I used FastBack and about 50 floppies :-) And something would always go wrong at about disk 37. Where do you put your ghosts? Arthur -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Porter, Mark Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:56 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Security measures Not really. I do regular windows updates, and the AVG update is on automatic for every 3 days. I do backups and ghosts every once in a while just incase, though. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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