William Hindman
wdhindman at bellsouth.net
Wed Dec 3 09:25:49 CST 2003
...nope ...W95 was a real OS ...you can run W95 without ever referring to the DOS as a separate entity, its not a "shell" program as previous versions of Windows had been ...granted DOS is still there but its no longer the captain of the ship. ...as for the IBM/MS partnership in OS/2, MS was the lead in that program and when IBM big wigs tried to put the MS horse back in the IBM barn by restricting MS development on Win 3x, Gates filed for divorce to the stunned amazement of the big guns at IBM ...they both walked away with the same code base ...IBM produced OS/2 and bombed ...MS produced NT and the rest is history :) William Hindman Government is not reason, government is not persuasion, government is force. It is a dangerous servant." G. Washington ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erwin Craps" <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] 1-2-3 DOS version under XP > Hold your horses :-) > Wait a minute > > DOS is an OS on 1 or 2 360KB 5 1/4" disks. > > Windows 95 is no OS. It's still windows based on dos. Same thing for > W98. > Just press F8 and boot in dos type win from dos and you come in W9X. > Windows ME they played around so you could not notice rigth away, I > believe the removed the boot in DOS already in ME. > > First real OS windows was NT4 or infact it was OS2 / Lan Manager. Win NT > 3.5 is the folow up of Lan Manager (which was based on MS OS/2 which > they developed for IBM). > > > Erwin > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens William Hindman > Verzonden: woensdag 3 december 2003 14:37 > Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] 1-2-3 DOS version under XP > > > "A compleet OS on 1 or 2 360KB diskettes..." Erwin > > ...no, no, no ...Windows 2 was NOT an OS at all, it was a GUI shell for > DOS ...Win 95 was the first version that didn't require DOS to work > ...and even then... :(((((( > > William Hindman > Government is not reason, government is not persuasion, government is > force. It is a dangerous servant." G. Washington > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erwin Craps" <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:23 AM > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] 1-2-3 DOS version under XP > > > > Aha > > Getting nostalgic... > > > > Netware 2.2, Xenix, PC-MOS, TBOS, MUMPS, Lan Manager, OS2, Corvus > > PC-NOS , DOS 2.x... Lantastic, Windows 2.x (Great stuf you only had > > notepad a calculator and minesweeper (or patience)) > > Those good old days... > > A compleet OS on 1 or 2 360KB diskettes... > > > > And and > > > > I remember the first time I saw a mouse.... > > What the heel were we suposed to do with a mouse. > > With a special mousepad, I believe those first mouses where optical? > > > > And and > > The first non-us keyboard > > Aaaahhh great stufff > > We had to put small stickers on the keys, but hey, we sure had > > azerty!!! > > > > And and > > The first laserprinter > > > > And and the > > first colorprinter > > > > I'm getting old :-( > > > > > > Erwin > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Mark L. Breen > > Verzonden: woensdag 3 december 2003 11:44 > > Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] 1-2-3 DOS version under XP > > > > > > Hello Erwin, > > > > I am not so excited about it, and you need not dig it out. I was only > > > wondering for romantic reasons, I have no need for it, but it would > > remind me of when I was a young man :) > > > > I still remember the excitement of when I first installed, Windows 3.1 > > > and Word 2.0 and Excel 4.0 > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > Mark L. Breen > > Ireland > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Erwin Craps" <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 1:15 AM > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] 1-2-3 DOS version under XP > > > > > > > Hi Mark > > > > > > I still have somewhere 3.1 and/or WfW 3.11 I believe English > > > version. (A good change for windows 2.x also) (V1.x I never > > > bothered to keep but yes I seen and installed it) I would find it > > > incredible that you could make it run under WXP not to say totaly > > > pointless from my point of view. But I supose your're still trying > > > to run Lotus 123? > > > > > > So if your pretty sure and can't find it no where else, I'll take a > > > dip in my diskette dungeon if you ask me nicely :-) > > > > > > I did not folowed the thread completely, are you stuck somewhere > > > with that EMS/LIM memory? > > > > > > Erwin > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > > Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Mark L. Breen > > > Verzonden: dinsdag 2 december 2003 11:37 > > > Aan: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] 1-2-3 DOS version under XP > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > Does anyone know where there is a site to download Window 3.1 just > > > for > > > > > nostalgia, I do not want to format a machine, I was just hoping to > > > run > > > > > it in a Virtual Session on XP Pro > > > > > > > > > My brother mentioned such a site some time ago but cannot remember > > > where he saw it. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca> > > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:20 AM > > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] 1-2-3 DOS version under XP > > > > > > > > > > On 2 Dec 2003 at 10:58, Gustav Brock wrote: > > > > > > > > > As a last resort you could create a multiboot setup. > > > > > Or set up a remote Win98 machine and give him a VNC remote > > > > > control > > > > > > > client. > > > > > > > > Before going dual boot, I'd suggest using VMWare and create a > > > > virtual DOS install and install 1-2-3 in the Virtual Machine. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca > > > > Only the mediocre are at their best all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com