[dba-Tech] Server versions

Many thanks for your insights everyone. Keep em coming everyone else.

John B
I'm probably teaching my grandmother to suck eggs here but your problem
couldn't be realted to this that I stumbled across could it?
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=272594

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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Date: 02/12/04 16:08

>
> Hi Andy,
> I have a few 2003 servers on clients sites.
>
> One network with <20 users and no windows domain/AD. W2k3 Server
basically
> functions as file/print server (it does a few other mundane tasks) Works
> like a charm! Have never had issue with it since Jan 04. Clients include
> W98se, W2k, WXP.
>
> Since that went sooo  smooth I recently installed W2k3 Server in another
> office - IT is a veritable nightmare. A network with <20 users and W2k3
is
> Primary Domain Controller PDC, file server/print server replacing a very
> old, slow, on its last legs NT4 server which was doing the same. Clients
> include WME, WXP. First off, the migration tools were a joke. Nothing
worked
> and when it came down to troubleshooting them I decided the time spent
would
> be better off just starting from scratch. So don't be fooled into thinking
a
> NT4 to W2k3 migration will work (or at least be easy)
>
> Basically the WME workstations cannot login reliably. About half the time
> they try to login they get an error that they cannot be authenticated. The
> only thing that seems to work (and I know, this makes NO SENSE considering
> they just booted up) they have to shut down and restart, then they can log
> in. Because these PCs had a history belonging to a NT4 domain I reloaded
ME
> from scratch on one of these to see if it made a difference and it did
not.
>
> XP never has a problem validating but the login is veryyyy slow. It takes
> about two minutes to authenticate. The new XP user work flow: boot up -
get
> coffee, type password - get coffee, caffeine buzzed - start working! ;o)
>
> I have discussed this with network engineers and they have no solutions.
Of
> course with WME they just shake their heads and mumble "Many
Errors". But
> this a non-profit that can't go out and just replace all their ME PCs or
> even upgrade them all to XP (which of course would be slow logging in).
They
> claim XP is validating as a Guest even though the user is a domain client
-
> they say its something Microsoft did with XP. I haven't been able to find
> anything that resolves either of these issues. Oh how I wish I had went
with
> W2k
>
> The Network Engineers I've talked to advise sticking with W2k server and
> clients. W2k3 server is good if your not going to use it as a PDC and if
its
> not going to part of an W2k server Active Directory Domain. They say W2k3
> will try to take over the AD.
>
> Well there's my 2 cents and a lot of beef :o)
>
> John B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:35 AM
> To: Dba Tech
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Server versions
>
>
> Dear all
> Your advice is sought.
>
> If a customer was thinking of upgrading from NT4 Server would the
consensus
> of opinion be to go to W2003 Server or W2000 Server? I ask because he has
a
> mix of W98 and W2K clients so is familiar with W2K and is therefore drawn
to
> W2K Server (still just about available to buy). But it will no doubt have
a
> shorter life than W2003 Server. So that is one point in W2003 Server's
> favour, but what are the other pros and cons?
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
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