John W. Colby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Tue Dec 7 19:23:45 CST 2004
What kinds of issues? John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 7:57 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls Be careful with the D-Link. There's been reported issues with the latest firmware... Also, not sure if we just got a bad batch, but its started to get a bad rep over here lately (Australia). The Oz site is often slow to be updated etc. _____ From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Wed 8/12/2004 9:20 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls A review for that one. http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Netgear_WGT624_108Mbps_wireless_firewall_router <http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Netgear_WGT624_108Mbps_wireless_firewall_route r> /4505-3319_16-30551639.html I bought this one... http://reviews.cnet.com/D_Link_DI_624_AirPlus_Xtreme_G_router/4505-3319_7-20 <http://reviews.cnet.com/D_Link_DI_624_AirPlus_Xtreme_G_router/4505-3319_7-2 0> 817312-2.html?tag=glance John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ <http://folding.stanford.edu/> -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> ] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 5:23 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls speaking of software/hardware firewalls, I was out looking at this one... WGT624 Netgear Router + Firewall (NAT+SPI) protection :) On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:32:22 -0600, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote: > I agree with you on principal but that too depends of the situation. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> ]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:15 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls > > Of course, a proxy removes that issue too. A hardware firewall, with > the proxy allowing internet access, boom, done. Faster firewall, and > faster internet connection (across a network). > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> ]On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:08 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls > > John, > Of course the one thing the hardware firewall can never do is protect > from malicious programs inside the firewall which a cheap piece of > software on each computer will do. This may not be an issue for most > one PC developers but once you put together a network and/or support > clients with networks this does become an issue. You can avoid using > software firewalls by using internal checkpoint type devices that act > as firewalls between networks segments but I can't say if that is less > expensive or better than having a basic software firewall component on > each computer. Probably really depends on each individual situation. > > John B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com <mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> ]On Behalf Of John W. > Colby > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:13 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Software Firewalls > > In fact a hardware firewall usually does everything that a software > firewall does, plus more. It is unusual for example for software > firewalls to do stateful packet inspection. Doing so is extremely > processor intensive. A good hardware firewall has a co-processor out > in the router that does that stuff and offloads the workstation from > doing that. IF you have a good hardware firewall, and the cheaper > routers are NOT firewalls or are very limited firewalls, then you > truly do not need a software firewall. I know of nothing that a > software firewall does that a good hardware firewall cannot be made to > do. > > Furthermore, the hardware firewall can be made to do it for ALL > workstations at one fell swoop, vs. having to write rules and get them > applied to each and every workstation's software firewall. > > I am NOT recommending that everyone out there get rid of their > zonealarm. I am saying however that if you spend the bucks on a good > router with a good hardware firewall built into it, and you set it up > correctly, then you can safely get rid of Zonealarm (or whatever you > use). > > John W. 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