[dba-Tech] ESB tools and technologies

Hi Shamil

If you need all those features I would suggest you also had a look at
Ensemble from InterSystems:

  http://www.intersystems.com/ensemble/index.html

I attended the intro presentation here in December lead by the
president of the company and was quite surprised to meet an attitude
from both him and his vice president for strategic planning very much
different from the strange arrogance you sometimes meet from
executives ... very nice people with an open mind and quite aware that
much potential business exists in the segment of smaller companies.

Although no price indications were given it was understood that this
product should be very competitive.

I haven't had the time to look closer at Ensemble - and to be honest
I'm more interested in their database engine, Caché. However, the
company has an office here lead by a bright guy; if you wish, I'm sure
I can ask him to let a representative contact you - they claim to be
very interested in new business and prepared to support new projects
with the knowledge of value they may have.

Are you able to tell about your project? It sounds like something more
than a quickly whipped "Access database" ...!

/gustav


>> Never heard of FioranoESB but it looks like a scaled-up MQ.

> Hi Gustav,

> I think it looks like more than a "scaled up MQ"/Powerful Messaging
> Middleware - this is also a Data Transformation Service, Web Services
> Orchestration, Data Replication Service, Distributed Transactions
> Coordinator of heterogeneous DBMSs and file systems etc.... - IMO, it
> looks very good in their white-papers and evaluation guide...

> <<<
> no indication of cost;
>>>>
> Yes, this scares me too.

>> Didn't you develop your own solution for distributed applications?
> I did program distributed applications with MS Access 2.0 and 97/2000
> only.

> Shamil

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
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> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] ESB tools and technologies


>> Hi Shamil
>>
>> Never heard of FioranoESB but it looks like a scaled-up MQ.
>>
>> Whether it is "worth" dealing with depends. I'm always a little scared
>> by sites stating "Enterprise" all over but no indication of cost;
>> typically that doesn't signal small businesses as a target group ...
>>
>> Didn't you develop your own solution for distributed applications?
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>> > Date: 2004-01-17 23:26
>>
>> > Hi All,
>>
>> > Enterprise Service Bus seems to become a hot topic! Does anybody use
>> > them in real life Enterprise Integration Solutions for small
>> > businesses?
>> > If yes, are they really worth and mature enough to use them instead
>> > of custom hand-made solutions?
>> > I'm first of all interested in FioranoESB and related products of
>> > Fiorano Software, Inc. (http://www.fiorano.com) - anybody uses them?
>>
>> > TIA for any info,
>> > Shamil
>>
>> > --
>> > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
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