[dba-Tech] ESB tools and technologies

Thank you for the reference, Gustav!

I looked through the info on their site - this looks too good to be true
:)  - I mean their post-relational DBMS Cach?:

<<<
Cach?, the post-relational database from InterSystems, has the features
professional developers need to quickly create Web and client/server
applications. Cach? benefits developers by giving them their choice of
development tools, programming languages, and methods of data access.
Cach? benefits transaction processing applications by providing
outstanding performance, massive scalability, real-time data analytics,
and robust reliability.
>>>

I'd prefer to stick mainly with MS software/development tools -
IT-industry de-facto standard - they promise so many goodies in upcoming
MS SQL 2004...

<<<
> Are you able to tell about your project?
>>>
I don't have any real projects - I'm just interested in ESB
software/middleware - software integration projects based on software
like FioranoESB may become a business, which even here in Russia could
bring good income as opposed to software programming small business,
which isn't a favoured and a good income business here...

<<<
It sounds like something more
> than a quickly whipped "Access database" ...!
>>>
BTW, I'm also looking for some work to make "quickly whipped Access
databases" :)

Shamil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] ESB tools and technologies


> Hi Shamil
>
> If you need all those features I would suggest you also had a look at
> Ensemble from InterSystems:
>
>   http://www.intersystems.com/ensemble/index.html
>
> I attended the intro presentation here in December lead by the
> president of the company and was quite surprised to meet an attitude
> from both him and his vice president for strategic planning very much
> different from the strange arrogance you sometimes meet from
> executives ... very nice people with an open mind and quite aware that
> much potential business exists in the segment of smaller companies.
>
> Although no price indications were given it was understood that this
> product should be very competitive.
>
> I haven't had the time to look closer at Ensemble - and to be honest
> I'm more interested in their database engine, Cach?. However, the
> company has an office here lead by a bright guy; if you wish, I'm sure
> I can ask him to let a representative contact you - they claim to be
> very interested in new business and prepared to support new projects
> with the knowledge of value they may have.
>
> Are you able to tell about your project? It sounds like something more
> than a quickly whipped "Access database" ...!
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >> Never heard of FioranoESB but it looks like a scaled-up MQ.
>
> > Hi Gustav,
>
> > I think it looks like more than a "scaled up MQ"/Powerful Messaging
> > Middleware - this is also a Data Transformation Service, Web
Services
> > Orchestration, Data Replication Service, Distributed Transactions
> > Coordinator of heterogeneous DBMSs and file systems etc.... - IMO,
it
> > looks very good in their white-papers and evaluation guide...
>
> > <<<
> > no indication of cost;
> >>>>
> > Yes, this scares me too.
>
> >> Didn't you develop your own solution for distributed applications?
> > I did program distributed applications with MS Access 2.0 and
97/2000
> > only.
>
> > Shamil
>
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
> > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] ESB tools and technologies
>
>
> >> Hi Shamil
> >>
> >> Never heard of FioranoESB but it looks like a scaled-up MQ.
> >>
> >> Whether it is "worth" dealing with depends. I'm always a little
scared
> >> by sites stating "Enterprise" all over but no indication of cost;
> >> typically that doesn't signal small businesses as a target group
...
> >>
> >> Didn't you develop your own solution for distributed applications?
> >>
> >> /gustav
> >>
> >>
> >> > Date: 2004-01-17 23:26
> >>
> >> > Hi All,
> >>
> >> > Enterprise Service Bus seems to become a hot topic! Does anybody
use
> >> > them in real life Enterprise Integration Solutions for small
> >> > businesses?
> >> > If yes, are they really worth and mature enough to use them
instead
> >> > of custom hand-made solutions?
> >> > I'm first of all interested in FioranoESB and related products of
> >> > Fiorano Software, Inc. (http://www.fiorano.com) - anybody uses
them?
> >>
> >> > TIA for any info,
> >> > Shamil
> >>
> >> > --
> >> > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
> >> > Web:   http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
>
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