John W. Colby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Wed Jul 28 12:41:49 CDT 2004
And of course you are right. In the end, anonymity is not a concern with me, but not being harassed (or worse) is. I could care less if every advertiser in the world tracked exactly where I surfed as long as they didn't flood my inbox with advertising, or cause popups when I am browsing. They do (or try) so I do or try to prevent all this stuff. On the other hand there comes a point where the time taken to learn the ins and outs of the new technology leaves me no time to use the every technology I am trying to learn about, never mind do work for money. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:03 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem John, everything is more complicated now-a-days. It used to be that you didn't really have to train new users on how to work the antivirus dialog screens, it used to be that you didn't have to teach them what NOT to open in their email boxes, it used to be that you didn't have to worry about "crap" games they would download off the internet, it "used" to be... firewalls (software/hardware) are required software/hardware for pc's just like Antivirus software are required parts of having a pc. Session cookies, and internet annonimity is not an easy task as you may want. You CAN pay an annonymizer service to help you manage this, but now you're talking about paying out THREE annual fees, just so you are safe and protected on the internet :) John W. Colby wrote On 7/28/2004 6:00 AM: >Steven, > >This is a great example of how this stuff can get out of hand. Each of >these things sounds like it might be useful. Taken as a whole it >sounds overwhelming. Then take into account the fact that I want to >block cookies from this site but I want to allow cookies from that >site. How am I supposed to administer all these things. How am I >supposed to even UNDERSTAND all these things? This is like asking me >to adjust the local 727 that I am supposed to be just flying in. OK, >maybe like adjusting the Cessna that I am just flying in. Sounds good >in theory, but the effects can be pretty awful. > >It seems to me like you'd need to play with each of these settings, one >at a time, for several days each just so that you could see their >effects on various sites that you know how they should look. Who has >time for that? > >John W. Colby >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. >Erbach >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:38 AM >To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows ME Malware problem > > >Jon, > > > >>>It blocks pop-ups. I assume that zonealarm does as well, but I had >>>google >>> >>> >before zonealarm, so I've never bothered to check :-) << > >The commercial version of ZoneAlarm has an interesting array of privacy >settings. You may: > >* block session cookies >* block persistent cookies >* block 3rd party cookies >* disable web bugs >* remove private header information >* force cookie expiration >* block banner/skyscraper ads >* block pop-up/pop-under ads >* block animation >* fill the space of a blocked ad with > # nothing > # a box with the word "[AD]" > # a box that allows the ad to appear upon mouseover >* block javascript >* block vbscript (and others) >* block embedded objects (java, ActiveX) >* block mime-type integrated objects > >All of these things may be turned on or off. I still don't understand >all this, but I've certainly seen the effects on certain sites. For >example, if I've got "remove private header information" checked then I >can't see many of the comic strips on comics pages web sites. Pamela >sends me a number of those each week. For a while I couldn't figure out >why I couldn't see them. Turned out to be ZoneAlarm. > >I like it. I don't even mind the annual fee. > >Regards, > >Steve Erbach >Scientific Marketing >Neenah, WI > >"IBM had every chance to end the Windows monopoly with OS/2 but shot >itself in the foot, ankle, shin, knee, and hip, reloading each time, >before giving up." - Jerry Pournelle > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >dba-Tech mailing list >dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- -Francisco _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com