Jon Tydda
Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk
Thu Jun 3 09:23:34 CDT 2004
No, sorry - I was agreeing with you on building desktops :-) with a small box presumably :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: DJK(John) Robinson [mailto:djkr at msn.com] Sent: 03 June 2004 15:19 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation I build my own desktops, but I've never built a LAPTOP! Where do you start?? John > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda > Sent: 03 June 2004 15:08 > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation > > > Yeah, I've always built my own, and other people's too. But > if they wanted something with a warranty, I tell them to buy > a Dell, from the factory outlet. I was considering doing that > myself, but it's always nice to say "I did that"... > > Also I know where I am with Intel stuff - you look at the fsb > of the chip, and make sure the motherboard and memory match > it... I don't know that with AMD, and I've never used an AMD, > so unless there's a huge difference to be had, I'm not one > for changing :-) I also like to know where I am with the > numbers... my office desktop is a P4-1.6, which runs at > 1.65ghz, my friends AMD 2800 runs at 2.01ghz - he was most > upset to find out that it wasn't the 2.8 he'd paid for. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: jwcolby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: 03 June 2004 14:58 > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation > > > Jon, > > Here in the US there is a company called NewEgg.com that > sells everything about as cheap as you'll find it. If you > insist on intel (bad boy!) then you are going to pay more for > less. If you will go with AMD then (here in the USA) I can > get motherboards and processors for cheap. In the end > though, it's tough to beat a brand new system from Dell when > they are having their sales. I found entire systems for > under $450 (minus monitors) right after Christmas when they > were dumping inventory. > > I always build my own though. > > Today you can get a high end AMD motherboard ($150), AMD 2500 > barton ($80), 512 m memory ($120), 160g hd ($95). > > That's a pretty nice system for not too much - assuming you > are upgrading and your power supply will handle the load. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 9:35 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation > > > Rocky > > Speaking in my capacity as a techy/notwork guy/fiddler, > you'll need 512mb RAM as a minimum for any pc now. The mobile > chip is up to you - I got an 11mb PCMCIA wifi card for $10 > from Ebay, so that costs nothing in comparison. Starcraft > runs on my p3-500 pc, so anything over that will suit Max, > but if he's going to upgrade his games, you might want to > consider a vaguely hefty graphics card - really anything with > 128mb of RAM on it will do. > > The speedstep technology is good though - increases battery > life and performance through using less power etc when the > laptop isn't plugged into the mains. > > Through looking to buy a "cheap" system on the internet, I've > found that you can't build a pc for much cheaper than £600, > because they stop selling the low end chips... I wanted to > get a "cheapish" motherboard and P4 (ie a 1.4 or so) to > upgrade my pc, spending about £150-200, but you can't buy > them anymore... so stupid... I don't want to spend £600 on a > new pc yet. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] > Sent: 03 June 2004 14:21 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation > > > Francisco: > > Well, sorry, finally getting back to this thread. I have two > boys 7 & 14 and they share a machine right now - a rather > pokey Celeron tower. The big guy, Max, starts high school in > September and it's time for him to have a machine of his own. > > He'll just be doing mostly word processing, email, and > internet research. Likes to play Starcraft on line but he can > use the other box for that. > > Although I've resisted it (I work at home and DON'T WANT to > be able to work anywhere), I'm thinking a laptop would have > some uses for me as well as my wife, the writer. > > So it's got to be powerful enough to do Access development, > although I'll only be using it when I travel which is not much. > > The idea of the mobile chip is attractive because you can sit > down in a coffeehouse anywhere and be on the internet. But I > suppose you can just get a PCMCIA Access Point and that will > do the same thing? > > Fry's was pushing the Sony Vaio the other day for about $1200 > with 512mb RAM, DVD, etc. > > Dell looks like they've got some good deals now. > > So that's the motivation and the needs. What's everybody think? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Francisco H Tapia" <my.lists at verizon.net> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:14 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation > > > > You're gonna receive a whole lotta responses Rocky. Maybe providing > > more information on what you expect your laptop to be able to do? > > > > - Development work > > - DVD viewing > > - a lot of wireless work > > - Play video games > > - etc... > > > > The Alienware solution is really more for people who are > gamers, it is > > > a very sweet system, but if you're not gonna game, then the 3d video > > card is going to waste... know what I mean? > > > > > > Jon Tydda wrote On 6/1/2004 2:00 PM: > > > > >check out the Alienware Area-51m... awesome... > > > > > > > > >Jon > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Peter Brawley" <peter.brawley at artfulsoftware.com> > > >To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > ><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:14 PM > > >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation > > > > > > > > >My understanding is that M better than 4 for lightweight. > IMO Toshiba > gives > > >more bang for the laptop buck, though. > > > > > >PB. 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