Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)
Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com
Tue Jun 8 10:57:29 CDT 2004
If I'm not mistaken, floating point calculations have always been the strongest feature of AMD processors. Mark -----Original Message----- From: JMoss [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:48 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation I've been using AMD processors for 13 years and never owned an Intel processor, but the United Devices cancer research program that runs on my AMD Athlon 2500 (1.8 ghz) speaks volumes to me about AMD vs Intel performance comparisons. The benchmark system for the UD program is a 1.5 GHz P4 and has a rating of 100. My AMD 1.8GHz machine consistently produces rating numbers in the 170 - 180 area. Most other volunteer participants report similar results. An interesting fact is that the UD Cancer research program is partially sponsored by Intel, which doesn't necessarily mean that their code is optimized for Intel processors, but I'd say that it's not likely optimized for AMD processors either. jm -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:18 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation I'm looking towards the AMD64 laptops for my next pc/laptop. Athlon's for me have performed leaps and bounds over P4's. In fact, Ghz per Ghz, I have an AMD 2000 (1.6ghz) at home and a P4 1.6ghz at work, and can you guess wich runs faster? :) with the new batch of AMD64 they are putting dual cores so that's one other reason i'm holding off, that and the next gen in video connectivity (pciexpress) i'm sure they'll have something similar for laptops that or the adaption that ATI was working on for replacable video cards :o) Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software said the following on 6/8/2004 5:28 AM: > Tempting. I like it when they put 512MB RAM in a machine. Lots of 'deal' > only sport 128 then you have to figure the extra cost of RAM to make it a > real machine. How does the Athlon compare to the Pentium? > > Rocky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 4:34 AM > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation > > > >>For those looking for a great value in laptops: >> >>http://www.emachines.com/products/products.html?prod=eMachines_M6809 >> >>Available at Best Buy right now with a $250 rebate. I just bought one and >>this is an awsome machine, well built, all the features you need for a >>"desktop replacement" kind of system. Best value out there in the $1250 >>range. >> >>John W. Colby >>www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - >>Beach Access Software >>Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:00 PM >>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation >> >> >>Perry: >> >>The Inspiron was in a brochure that came in the mail. E-Value Code >>64984-S80611o for what it's worth. >> >>Rocky >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Perry Harold" <pharold at proftesting.com> >>To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" >><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> >>Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:48 AM >>Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation >> >> >> >>>Hi Rocky >>> >>>Where did you see the Inspiron 600M for $700? Just checked Dell's >>>site >> >>and >> >>>for home/home office it's $1362 for that model and about the same for >> >>small >> >>>business. That doesn't include the upgrade to 15" screen and XP Pro >>>that you probably should opt to include. >>> >>>Mobile technology is optimized for mobile communication but there >>>still is >> >>a >> >>>need for a device to communicate with. >>> >>>Most of Dell's specials only last for a couple days so you have to >>>jump quick to take advantage of them. >>> >>>We have 3 Latitude D500 which I'm very pleased with other than the >>>screen crispness isn't what I would like to have. Should have gone >>>for the SXGA rather than XGA. >>> >>>I have a Systemax that I use at home which I like very well also. The >>>prices are fairly comparable to Dell's and you can also configure to >>>get what you want. (Disclaimer - I sell these so I was able to get it >>>at "wholesale" which influenced me some on this one.) >>> >>>Perry Harold >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky >>>Smolin - Beach Access Software >>>Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:15 AM >>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation >>> >>> >>>Dell is offering their Inspiron 600m for $700. Pentium M at 1.5GHz, >>>Intel PROWireless 2100 802.11b 11Mbps Mini-PCI Wireless Card (I >>>thought with the mobile technology you didn't need a card), Win XP >>>Home, 5123MB RAM, 40GB >> >>HD, >> >>>14.1 inch XGA TFT Display, CD Burner/DVD Combo, includes serial and >> >>parallel >> >>>ports. >>> >>>Fry's has the Sony Vaio for $1200: P4, 2.8GHz, CD-RW/DVD, 512MB RAM, >>>15 inch XGA TFT display, 40GB HD, Integrated WiFi, 10/100 NIC, modem, >>>memory stick slot, WIN XP Home. >>> >>>Any opinions? >>> >>>Rocky >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Jon Tydda" <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk> >>>To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" >>><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> >>>Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 6:54 AM >>>Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation >>> >>> >>>It's an Intel thing - decreases the amount of power used by your >>>laptop >> >>when >> >>>it's running on battery power. >>> >>> >>>Jon >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] >>>Sent: 03 June 2004 14:53 >>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation >>> >>> >>>Jon: >>> >>>What is speedstep technology? >>> >>>Rocky >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Jon Tydda" <Jon.Tydda at alcontrol.co.uk> >>>To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" >>><dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> >>>Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 6:35 AM >>>Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation >>> >>> >>>Rocky >>> >>>Speaking in my capacity as a techy/notwork guy/fiddler, you'll need >>>512mb RAM as a minimum for any pc now. The mobile chip is up to you - >>>I got an 11mb PCMCIA wifi card for $10 from Ebay, so that costs >>>nothing in comparison. Starcraft runs on my p3-500 pc, so anything >>>over that will >> >>suit >> >>>Max, but if he's going to upgrade his games, you might want to >>>consider a vaguely hefty graphics card - really anything with 128mb of >>>RAM on it will do. >>> >>>The speedstep technology is good though - increases battery life and >>>performance through using less power etc when the laptop isn't plugged >> >>into >> >>>the mains. >>> >>>Through looking to buy a "cheap" system on the internet, I've found >>>that >> >>you >> >>>can't build a pc for much cheaper than £600, because they stop selling >>>the low end chips... I wanted to get a "cheapish" motherboard and P4 >>>(ie a 1.4 or so) to upgrade my pc, spending about £150-200, but you >>>can't buy them anymore... so stupid... I don't want to spend £600 on a >>>new pc yet. >>> >>> >>>Jon >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] >>>Sent: 03 June 2004 14:21 >>>To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >>>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop Recommendation >>> >>> >>>Francisco: >>> >>>Well, sorry, finally getting back to this thread. I have two boys 7 & >>>14 and they share a machine right now - a rather pokey Celeron tower. >>>The >> >>big >> >>>guy, Max, starts high school in September and it's time for him to >>>have a machine of his own. >>> >>>He'll just be doing mostly word processing, email, and internet >>>research. Likes to play Starcraft on line but he can use the other box >>>for that. >>> >>>Although I've resisted it (I work at home and DON'T WANT to be able to >> >>work >> >>>anywhere), I'm thinking a laptop would have some uses for me as well >>>as my wife, the writer. >>> >>>So it's got to be powerful enough to do Access development, although >>>I'll only be using it when I travel which is not much. >>> >>>The idea of the mobile chip is attractive because you can sit down in >>>a coffeehouse anywhere and be on the internet. But I suppose you can >>>just >> >>get >> >>>a PCMCIA Access Point and that will do the same thing? >>> >>>Fry's was pushing the Sony Vaio the other day for about $1200 with >>>512mb RAM, DVD, etc. >>> >>>Dell looks like they've got some good deals now. >>> >>>So that's the motivation and the needs. 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