Drew Wutka
dbatech at wolfwares.com
Sun May 16 17:26:00 CDT 2004
True, but MP3 players aren't that expensive. And to play one through your
car, you can get tape or radio adapters for portable MP3 players.
Drew
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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:31 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Phonographs to CDs
Good points Drew but a couple of provisos.
1.If you want to play through your home hi-fi or car CD player you can't use
MP3 format unless you've bought specialised equipment for the job. Fine if
you have or going to get an MP3 player but limited where you can use the
CD's.
2.I would never use any stacking system for vinyl. Fast way to wreck your
original albums. Modern decks often don't even have the 'feature'.
3.I do always record to PC then burn to CD. Speed of doing that is no
problem. I've used the Spin Doctor element of Easy CD Creator Platinum. The
slowest bit though is that it is not effective, however you play with its
settings, at spotting the silence between tracks. What you end up with is 2
WAV's - Side 1 and Side 2. Unless you're happy with that on your CD (means
no ability to select or skip to individual tracks) you then need to use a
sound editing program like Goldwave to split it. Good as Goldwave is it
still takes a fair bit of time to identify the inter-track spaces. So if
anyone uses other software to do the recording which DOES split tracks well
then I'd love to know.
Cheers
-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
> Sent: 15 May 2004 01:31
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Phonographs to CDs
>
>
> I am assuming you are porting the record player into your
> computer's sound card. They make software packages that will
> record the input or output of your soundcard into any format
> that you want. Since you found a 'simple' solution for
> actually recording them, why not simplify the process of
> recording them. Instead of burning them directly to CD, why
> not record them to your computer as MP3's. That gives you
> several freedoms. One, most turntables allow you to put
> multiple records on them, and when the one playing is done,
> it drops the next. That gives you a 'cycle' to allow you to
> run several at a time, without 'monitoring' it and without
> swapping CD-R's on your computer. Two, if you are recording
> them to MP3's, you have a few advantages. First, in CD
> format, you will probably only get 1 LP per CD. Maybe two,
> and maybe less then 1. Either way, you are going to be
> wasting space on CD's. Not too mention that CD's take up
> room too. However, a CD ripped to MP3 format is going to run
> 3 to 5 megs per song. Even if you are averaging high, that
> would be 5 megs per song and let's say 15 songs a pop, you
> are only talking about 75 megs per LP. That would be ~75
> gigs per 1,000 LP's, so for 3,000 LP's, you're talking 225
> gigs. This is a high estimate too, I just looked at the
> folder I just ripped my Queen's greatest Hits CD too, and it
> has 17 songs, and is only 67 megs. So I would hazard a guess
> that you could get 3,000 LP's onto about 150 to 200 gigs.
> Then again, aren't LP's 45 minutes a side, which would be 90
> minutes an LP, so it would be larger then a CD, and probably
> closer to 75 megs a pop.
>
> Anyhow, just looked on eCost.com, and they have a Maxtor 200
> gig drive for $149. Their 100 pack of CD's is $29. So to
> get 3000 CD's, you're talking $870. Instead, get a large
> hard drive, and buy a bunch of CD-RW's. Though not all CD
> players will play CD-RW's. However, if you buy a MP3 player
> (cd version), you can put close to 10 LP's on one MP3 cd.
> Going the direct CD route is going to cost you at least 4
> times as much.
>
> On top of that, you get a REALLY nice perk. By putting
> everything into MP3 format, on a single hard drive, you have
> a single backup source. Want to make it 'safe' for
> posterity, just buy another drive, and copy it over. One big
> transfer, instead of trying to copy 3,000 CD's. Grin.
>
> I will tell you that logistically speaking, you're biggest
> obstacle isn't going to be the copying process. It's going
> to be the 'information recording' process. CD's are recorded
> on internet CDDB's, based on their individual ID's. LP's
> don't have that, so there is nothing available to
> automatically populate the list of songs on an LP. Their may
> be databases out there with the 'tracks' on an LP, that you
> could have Access automatically rename the MP3 files into
> their appropriate album and song names (of course, you'll
> also have to find something to 'split' the LP MP3's into
> individual songs, honestly, that actually wouldn't be too
> difficult, you could probably make you're own 'splitter' in
> VB, though they probably have something like that available.)
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
> Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Phonographs to CDs
>
>
> I am pleased to report that I have finally conquered this
> problem. I can now burn a CD from a record on my turntable!
> It turned out to be ludicrousy easy. Reminds me of the old
> joke about the guy who punches the refridgerator to make it
> work again ("it's not the punch, it's knowing where to
> punch"). I simply didn't believe it could be this easy.
>
> Now for the hard part. I have approximately 3,000 LPs,
> virtually all of them in mint or close-to-mint condition. (An
> Oracle turntable helps :) Anyone got any ideas how I can
> automate their recordings? Perhaps an illegal immigrant at a
> dollar a day :)
>
> Arthur
>
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