John W. Colby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Fri Nov 19 16:17:23 CST 2004
ROTFL. I thought nobody caught that! John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Scott Marcus Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:05 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Access vs. .NET John, <<it's all a moo point. Do you watch Friends? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:06 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Access vs. .NET LOL. Buy a book - or several. Someone was mentioning getting "thousands of hits" on a search of help for some subject. That is what I mean by too much stuff in the help system. Yea, it is good to have it documented, but it would be nice to have it not show up unless specifically asked for. All the end user classes should be searched, then a drill down to look at inherited stuff if you want to. That isn't how it works, and probably never will work that way so it's all a moo point. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:58 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Access vs. .NET Hi John I see. But how do you (or any other following this thread) manage that? /gustav >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 18-11-2004 16:51:42 >>> The end user in this case is the programmer. The programmer is presented with well over 3000 classes, of which probably 300-500 are normally "useful" to the programmer. The rest are parent, grand parent objects etc back up the inheritance chain. Most of those objects are not really very useful on a day to day basis, but they are documented and their documentation obscures the vision. Kinda like the forest for the trees. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:42 AM To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Access vs. .NET Hi John What do mean saying "end user stuff". Do end users program in .Net? /gustav >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 18-11-2004 15:33:45 >>> Yep, bewilderment is allowed. The biggest issue in my opinion with .net is that while 9/10ths of the classes are not end user stuff they still have to expose them (and document them) since with true inheritance it is possible that you will need to get at them every once in awhile. It would be nice if it were organized such that the end user stuff were all that you saw unless you "pressed a button" to show the parent objects. The other thing is that the organization, the presentation is totally different from Access. We simply aren't used to it. Because in Access inheritance doesn't exist per se a lot of the things (windows of information) that are required in .net aren't needed in Access. It is absolutely overwhelming when you first get started. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com