[dba-Tech] security (was: Child's play)

Damn Francisco, that's two out of two for you.  First Firefox, a great
browser (thanks) and now Sygate, a very nice software firewall (thanks).  I
have always used Zonealarm but it is nice being able to see things.  Graphs
even!  I always felt like I was flying blind and hoping that Zonealarm was
doing what it oughta.  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:22 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] security (was: Child's play)


a good hardware firewall will keep any other kind of connection out, but it
won't prevent software from calling home, that's what software firewalls do.
I prefer Sygate to ZoneAlarm tho.


On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:48:41 -0500, Drew Wutka <dbatech at wolfwares.com>
wrote:
> I wouldn't run Zone Alarm on top of a router firewall.  That's just 
> silly.
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:43 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] security (was: Child's play)
> 
> You are correct in your assumptions! Like I said, I've never had this 
> issue happen to me. Doesn't mean it can't happen!
> :o)
> 
> At this point I would have uninstalled the entire suite. cleaned the 
> PC and reinstalled it. The most problematic NIS installation I worked 
> on (nothing compared to your example) was one where the owner 
> installed it.
> 
> On this subject I just got off the phone with a small business client 
> who recently moved his office complex from Cable access to DSL (cost 
> wise was much better). He has been having problems with just about 
> everything since then. He just called and asked me to come and 
> straighten it out for him. He had called the DSL company support this 
> morning and had a tech tell him that they couldn't help him while he 
> was running a firewall and anti-virus program AND that these things 
> were totally unnecessary with their internet access because of their 
> security. He said the tech claimed that the router was all the 
> protection he needed.
> 
> Anyone else heard this kind of advice lately?!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco 
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:09 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Child's play
> 
> Yes I did try to invoke "Permit All" from the Firewall configuration, 
> under the Programs Tab, I found IE and FireFox, I set both of them 
> from Automatic to Permit All, while the Firewall was invoked, there 
> was NO internet access.  I disabled the NIS firewall and I had my 
> internet back, I installed Sygate Personal Firewall, reboot, and 
> resumed using the pc, this time I was able to get to the internet w/ 
> either IE or FireFox depending on their Allow/Block stataus.
> 
> so to me NIS was a hassle... IF the program has been given "PERMIT 
> ALL" status for communication, I understand that to mean that the 
> program has FULL permissions to access the INTERNET.
> 
> what part of that am I confusing?
> 
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