Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)
Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com
Mon Oct 25 12:16:21 CDT 2004
I'm glad you made me do the calculations...I hadn't gone that far. My current video card lists 300W for the minimum power supply requirements:( ...yet I couldn't locate the actual rated wattage (probably far less than 300W). The rest of the info is below. The optical drive is negligible because it won't be in use when the rest of the system is maxed out...for that matter the hard drive shouldn't be thrashing either (I hope). AMD 3000 89W : Max 66W : Intermediate 35W : Min Western Digital Raptor 740GD 8.4W : Read/Write But, the bottom line is that I might be pushing the limits, especially if components were upgraded...I wonder what a Shuttle rep would suggest? Mark -----Original Message----- From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:11 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation I would still do the calculations to make sure that you don't run out of power. You are talking about a 939, a 10,000 rpm hard drive (has to use more watts than a 7200 rpm drive), plus the other goodies. I haven't looked at the power requirements of 939, but would imagine that you are looking at 100+ watts just for the CPU. The Shuttle unit looks good, and I would be interested in how that works out for you. I might want to use that box in a very similar configuration. > > From: "Mitsules, Mark S. \(Newport News\)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com> > Date: 2004/10/25 Mon AM 10:46:54 EDT > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: RE: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation > > Thanks for the feedback. In the past, I would have agreed, but this model, > in particular, hopefully addresses both of those issues. They use an > integrated liquid-cooling block to keep down on the noise, and 32db, 240 > watt power supply. With only a video card, 1 optical drive, and 1 hard > drive, the 240 Watt power supply should be more than sufficient. > http://us.shuttle.com/SN95G5.asp > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:05 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation > > > I would be leery about the power requirements for you system spec on a small > footprint system. Most small form factor systems have a relatively small > power supply or they did the last time that I looked at one. Also, the fans > in small footprint systems are rather noisy. > > > > From: "Mitsules, Mark S. \(Newport News\)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com> > > Date: 2004/10/25 Mon AM 08:30:50 EDT > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation > > > > Speaking of cases...does anyone have any experience with the small form > > factor cases...specifically, Shuttle? I've grown weary over the past few > > years of having this huge tower on my desk. Space isn't the issue, my > desk > > is huge, I'm just looking at clean-looking alternatives. Here is my > current > > (achievable) wish-list. The processor is the least expensive option > > available in that performance line, giving me plenty of room for future > > upgrades. I should mention that this would be primarily a gaming machine, > > hence the small, screamingly fast hard drive. Any comments? > > > > > > $319 Shuttle XPC Black Barebone System > > for Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 CPU, > > Model SN95G5, nVidia nForce 3. > > > > $179 AMD 3000 90nm 939pin > > > > $170 1GB PC-4200 DDR533 RAM > > > > $180 Western Digital Raptor 740GD > > 74GB SATA 10K rpm 8MB Hard Drive > > ____ > > $848 Total > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] > > Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 8:29 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation > > > > > > John, > > > > I bought a bunch of stuff from NewEgg recently to build a new machine and > > upgrade an existing one. I've been buying pairs of drives for the past > > several years to allow for a Ghosted backup. A pair of 160 GB drives from > > NewEgg was $192. > > > > One caveat: if there's something flaky with your motherboard you've got to > > do the RMA yourself. I bought a Gigabyte board for my wife's workstation. > > Everything works fine EXCEPT that when the machine is started cold it > > doesn't recognize the 2nd hard disk. My wife is now used to going into > Setup > > and having the motherboard detect the 2nd drive automagically. I didn't > want > > to hassle with sending the board back to Gigabyte -- NewEgg doesn't do any > > product support; thus their low prices. > > > > It might be the drive; but all I'm saying is that if you assemble these > > things yourself then you don't have the luxury of pulling another > > motherboard or hard disk off the shelf to replace a bad one. > > > > Steve > > > > P.S., Steer clear of Enermax cases. > > > > > ------------Original Message------------ > > > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > > > To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > > Date: Tue, Oct-19-2004 6:07 PM > > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Desktop recommendation > > > > > > Building is always a good idea. You might not be able to put a new mb > > > in > > > that chassis (HP used to design their stuff to prevent that) but if you > > > buy > > > an inexpensive case you can use the drives and stuff from the old > > > machine in > > > your new machine. You already have a monitor / keyboard. The new > > > motherboards have almost everything else. You can even find > > > motherboards > > > with a video chip on the mb. 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