John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Tue Oct 26 19:54:31 CDT 2004
Well not really. OE is just for email and it does that good enough. Outlook is a PIM and is a RAM hog. It always consumes 15-30 MB of RAM while running on my system. Its slow, the searches can't find anything, task, contacts, appointments are linked well if at all - and that takes effort. Its basically the PIM version of spaghetti code. And all the security stuff they keep forcing on me is driving me nuts. Every time I turn off one thing the put another restriction in when I patch the beast. OE isn't much different in that regards though. Outlook is nice for spell checking and you can use Word as the editor if you want but sometimes the spellchecker does things to my email that I don't catch and that's embarrassing! I use Outlook because the software sheep do and there's no better way to know something than to use it. I used to use Lotus Organizer and OE as the integrated email program. Now that was sweet. I'm looking at Francisco's recommendations (on DBA-Tech). Firefox and Thunderbird. I'm really getting sick of the IE and Outlook games... -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:02 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles So you prefer OE to Outlook? I use OE but always thought it was kind of Outlook Light for those of us who didn't want to drag around all or need that Outlook functionality. The only thing I found in Outlook I like better is the spell checker. It will correct ofthe to of the - stuff like that. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 4:25 PM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > Hi Rocky, > Glad it worked out for you! > > Problems similar to yours prompted me to form the opinion that I don't > install Outlook on machines where the user doesn't specifically ask for it. > The other standard ms office apps don't affect everything under the sun so > they all go on, but outlook is "by request only". I install it when > requested but I generally remove OE right away too. > > John B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > - Beach Access Software > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:37 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > > > John: > > Fixed it. Law of averages I guess. Something finally worked. I googled a > site: > > http://windowsxp.mvps.org/sendtomail.htm > > and copied these two commands into the Run box: > > MSIMN.EXE /REG > regsvr32 "%ProgramFiles%\Outlook Express\msoe.dll" > > Then OE showed up in my internet options programs mail program combo box and > all is well. > > Windows...you gotta love it... > > Rocky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com> > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:14 PM > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > > > > John: > > > > Making some progress. Removed Outlook 2k. But send to doesn't send > > anything - IOW it doesn't make an OE mail. That's because to set the mail > > preference I use IE-->Tools-->Internet Options-->Programs and select from > > the E-mail combo box. But at the moment, there's nothing in there. Do > you > > know how I can get OE to show up there? Then I think it'll be back to > > working OK again. > > > > TIA > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net> > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:29 PM > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > > > > > > > Rocky, > > > Yes. I'd do them backwards i.e. remove O2k then O97. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > > > - Beach Access Software > > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:27 PM > > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > > > > > > > > > John: For both O2K and O97? I have both installed. > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net> > > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:51 PM > > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > > > > > > > > > > Rocky, > > > > Just got back in for a short stop. > > > > > > > > You have to use the MS Office Add/Repair/Modify/Remove common dialog. > It > > > > should be listed as MS Office but IIRC if any of that version's apps > are > > > > listed in the Add/Remove applet they will bring up the common dialog. > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin > > > > - Beach Access Software > > > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:44 PM > > > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > > > > > > > > > > > > John: > > > > > > > > It's not on the add/remove programs list. Do I have to do that with > the > > > > Office disk? I have both O97 and O2000 Outlooks installed. > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net> > > > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:19 AM > > > > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rocky, > > > > > If you're not using Outlook uninstall it, then OE will default > without > > > the > > > > > battle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky > > Smolin > > > > > - Beach Access Software > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:41 AM > > > > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > > > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gustav: > > > > > > > > > > I see that on the general tab is says that OE is not the default. > So > > I > > > > > click the button to make it the default and after a longish pause it > > > seems > > > > > to work. But when I go back to check it, it's not the default > again. > > > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > > > > > To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" > > > > > <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:06 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mail Profiles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like you have installed Outlook 2003 as your default mail > > > > > > program. > > > > > > In OE you should be able to set it (back) as the default mail > > program > > > > > > at the main page of the properties page. > > > > > > > > > > > > /gustav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2004-10-25 17:31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Used to be I could right click a file and select WinZip and > email > > > and > > > > it > > > > > would do it, popping up an email in Outlook Express which is what > I'm > > > > using. > > > > > Suddenly, things changed. Now I get a little > > > > > > > dialog box that wants me to choose a profile. I think it has > > > > something > > > > > to do with Microsoft Exchange but I don't want to have anything to > do > > > with > > > > > Microsoft Exchange. Anyone know how I can 'unset' > > > > > > > this? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dba-Tech mailing list > > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com