John W. Colby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Mon Jan 3 08:12:00 CST 2005
512 mb should indeed be enough. Unfortunately it just isn't anymore. I haven't figured out exactly why but WinXP just sucks up memory. As an example right now I have open WinXP, Outlook and Firefox with a single tab. Of course I have Norton AV and Sygate firewall as well (this is my laptop). Oh, and Folding at Home is loaded and processing a large work unit (100mb), Yahoo and Messenger (which I don't use much but can't seem to get rid of). I have 1.25 gb ram (a 256m dimm and a 1 g dimm). Task manager shows 1.3 g total ram with 700g free. That means that 600g is being used. For what? All of the applications I mention only total about 300mb. I can only assume that Windows is really huge and lots of pieces of it are being pulled in. I found my system was always swapping to disk, which of course with the 4200 rpm disk is just horribly slow. Just expanding to a gig or more of ram pretty much stops the swapping, but with the 4200 rpm disk load times were interminably slow. It would take 4 minutes to just load everything. Now with the 7200 rpm disk everything loads in about 1 minute 30 seconds or so. The same difference applies as I open access, open Visual Studio etc. I spent a lot of money (to me) on a modern laptop with a powerful processor etc. To not upgrade the hard disk and ram jut didn't make sense. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 3:26 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop should run faster Well I can guarantee you also that change to a 7200 speed thing nicely up. 512MB RAM should be sufficiant, but greatly depends on the number of apps at the same time. I notice that when I start photoediting some 8M pixel photos, I'm diskswapping alot. Erwin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:48 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop should run faster Lol. You really must believe me, I've been there. Replacing my hard disk made the whole thing feel faster. Adding memory minimized swapping. Taken together they made a significant and noticeable difference. In a few years the 4200 rpm drives will not be used anymore. They were used to minimize operating current, but the new 5400 and 7200 rpm drives don't use that much more current now. As for the memory, 500mb is not really all that much, especially if the video is taking some. And WinXP is a memory hog too. I was really unhappy with my laptop performance (after the first few months ;~), and swapping that hardware made it a real machine, every bit as fast as an equivalent desktop machine. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:15 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Laptop should run faster Ack! Hardware! Maybe I'm not in as much of a hurry as I thought. :) But thanks for the lead. I wonder if doubling the memory would be effective? Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> To: "'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Laptop should run faster > First thing to do is go get a 7200 rpm drive. I am serious Rocky. > Laptops come with 4200 rpm drives and they suck for access speeds. > > http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-146-020&d > epa=0 > > Get a usb port connected shell that holds the hard drive (the form > factor > is > important here, laptop hds are smaller). Then attach the new drive to > your > laptop. Ghost the contents out to the new drive. Swap the internal with > the new one. It took me about 1 hour (plus the transfer time of the ghost > operation), dead simple to do. > > After that get a 1gb dim. I bought this one for my EMachines: > > http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4158153 > > My laptop now performs like it should. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: > http://folding.stanford.edu/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin - Beach Access Software > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 1:55 AM > To: dba-tech > Subject: [dba-Tech] Laptop should run faster > > > Dear tech: > > My laptop doesn't run as fast as I thin it should (who's does?). I > recall vaguely some tips about things that can be turned of in windows > that tend to bog things down. Some kind of logging, or indexing, or > audit trailing, or something. > > Anyway, if anyone has any hints I'll give them a try. It's a 64bit > Athlon processor running with 512MB RAM and WXP Home. Seems to be > doing a lot of disk swapping when starting or terminating programs. > Also slow startup when changing user accounts. > > Any tips appreciated. > > Best, > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > http://www.e-z-mrp.com > 858-259-4334 > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com