[dba-Tech] OT: Friday Humor:...

Shamil Salakhetdinov shamil at users.mns.ru
Wed May 4 14:24:22 CDT 2005


> The first is that the power-vaccuum enabled the gangsters to have free
> reign,
Arthur,

You say "is that" - do you mean that "gangsters reign" is still here?
If yes, then I'd note that it's almost finished. Even when it was here -
first part of 90ies mainly - it wasn't a problem for ordinary people - they
were fighting mainly each other with very rare casualties of people around.
yes, this was a problem for small- and middle- business who had that time to
pay these gangsters...
Yes, I think it's finished - at least I don't see that small-/middle-size
businesses have to look for a "roof" now to not have any troubles from
gangsters. What is still here are bureaucratic officials who used to force
to give them bribes. But they don't use gunpower - they use bureaucracy as
their tool to disturb businesses to grow...

> The second tragedy is that somehow Mr. Putin is getting away with his
> suppression of free speech. Why are there not hundreds of thousands of
> people in the streets, as recently in Ukraine? That part I cannot
> explain. Perhaps you can shed some insight.
There is no a leader here who people believe.
And there is no a visible figure on horizon for this position as a Putin's
opponent.
There is no an active civil society here to make any actions without leaders
(this may end in a big trouble with a lot of blood - remember Civil War of
1917 - 1921 here - that was a tragedy with "rivers of blood" from both Red
and White Army's sides- both were very cruel, and very big casualties and
terror on civilians - nobody wanted to have something like that here again -
and assuming that people is very tired from the life here and the opinions
are rather different on events here of different groups of population - then
any "assault" may result in a very bloody butchery here. This country is
loosing million of its population every year anyway...

People mainly do not believe to democratic forces leaders here  (they have
10-15% of the votes during elections) because they, these leaders, proved an
d prove they are more concerned about their own businesses, positions or
publicity than about this country and its population. FYI: when in 1991
there was an attempt here to restore Soviet regime a lot of people went to
streets and there was real possibility tanks enter the city etc. but people
go on the streets here in and Moskow They were leaded here that time with
that time governor of this city - Sobtachak (BTW, Putin was his consultant
that times). Sobtchak is dead now (natural death because of heart attack).
He was very popular here. A lot of people believed him.
You know who is one of the most rich young ladies in this country now - his
daughter. Many people ask themselves how it happened that a poor history
professor's daughter has millions dollars on her accounts when most of the
population are under poverty level? And such examples are many...

...do you think people are silly here to go fighting leaded by people who
think first of all about themselves?

...so Putin's positions are very strong and the chances somebody appears
here in the near future are low.

Ordinary people do not believe nor to democratic leaders, nor to the
goodwill of foreign countries, which businesses exploit people here  almost
same way "new Russians" do.

So, it looks like better to have here "blood-free" slow developing
semi-totalitarian wild capitalism based with absent civil society
semi-feudal country than anything else - the chances are it will naturally
evaluationate in something more open and free - this trend can't be
suppressed I think I see that looking at young people here. This country is
developing economically, very slow but developing - this is a fact...

Once again in this situation Putin's positions are very strong.

I did vote for democratic party leader on last presidential elections here
as I did all the other times before the last elections after the fall of the
Soviet Union. My voice and the voice of another ~15% of population can't
change the situation here...

No way for qucik changes here to free active civil society, no way. Young
coming generations - 20 years old now - they could change the situation
probably - in 10-20 years...

I can be wrong. I'd be happy to be wrong. But I don't want bloody fight
here. I do think free society will be estableshed here sooner or later.
Better later and by evolution than sooner but by bloody new revolution...

Best regards,
Shamil
--
Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Fuller" <artful at rogers.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech]OT:
FridayHumor:Anewpetitiontosupportoutdated(?)technologies...


> You invite me to make a fool of myself, Shamil, but I have never yet
> shied away from such an opportunity.
>
> In my opinion you have placed your focus on the third tragedy, not the
> first and second.
>
> The first is that the power-vaccuum enabled the gangsters to have free
> reign, while at the same time the police in St. Petersburg didn't even
> have fax machines that worked correctly, let alone gasoline for their
cars.
>
> The second tragedy is that somehow Mr. Putin is getting away with his
> suppression of free speech. Why are there not hundreds of thousands of
> people in the streets, as recently in Ukraine? That part I cannot
> explain. Perhaps you can shed some insight.
>
> To be fair, almost half the people in the USA still think that Saddam
> was connected to the World Trade Center tragedy, so no country is immune
> to the effects of media concentration and control. It's my guess that
> the Canadian media are even more concentrated than the American media,
> but even within one nation that is not the problem. The problem is the
> Rupert Murdochs, the Time-Life-Warners, the vertical integration of film
> studios, TV stations, newspapers and toy-manufacturers. The result is
> the same editorial in 30 countries (albeit in the local language),
> movies that gross $200M in the first two weeks then die because finally
> the word gets around that they stink, and toys tied to the
> aforementioned movies that are given away in fast-food restaurants whose
> apparent purpose is to fatten the population like pigs fattened for the
> market.
>
> The problem, the real problem, is that the MBAs have learned all their
> strategies from the mob. And this is a global problem. More effective
> here, less effective there, but it's the same problem in every country
> you examine.
>
> Arthur
>
> Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>
> >Hi Gustav,
> >
> >
> >
> >>One classic though - which smells really bad -
> >>is the small "pilot project
> >>
> >>
> >So never ever participate in the "small pilot projects"?
> >What about Proof Of Concept(POC) kind of projects? - when it's not even
> >clear is that possible to implement what client wanted to be developed?
> >
> >
> >
> >>"the big job is canceled by the stupid superiors".
> >>
> >>
> >They are always stupid? :)
> >I mean have you seen/met with some smart high level and not that high
level
> >managers? :)
> >That was my experience here in Soviet Union and then Russia that there
are
> >very few good managers.
> >What a surprise was when I have found that there on the West there are
also
> >a few good managers! (This is not I who thought most of them not good
> >enough - these were native people of these Western countries I worked
with
> >who characterized them this way...)
> >I have seen two good managers so far and not the high level - what I have
> >heard/seen of rather high level managers - they were always "stupid
> >superiors" :)
> >
> >The (rhetoric) question is how this World is still running with all that
> >"stupid superiors" making the decisions influencing millions of peoples
and
> >billions of dollars...
> >
> >...as far as I see here in Russia a capitalistic country is mainly a
> >chaotically developing  "beast"(what a surprise!?)  - the least state
tries
> >to "touch" it, the best for its self-development...
> >
> >... the tragedy of the Soviet Union(if we will not take into account
> >genocide against its own people in 20ies-50ies of the last century) and
of
> >nowadays Russia is that state is trying to have too much bureaucratic
> >control on capitalistic businesses and in the same time lets them to
exploit
> >to the max their workers and employees. If the state here gave more
freedom
> >to the businesses and in the same time didn't let them to exploit that
heavy
> >their workers everything would have developed here much faster...
> >
> >...yes, I know it's easy to say "stupid superiors" - and it's not that
> >easy(?) to be these supermanagers...
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Shamil
> >--
> >Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> >To: <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:14 PM
> >Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT:
> >FridayHumor:Anewpetitiontosupportoutdated(?)technologies...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi Shamil
> >>
> >>It sounds like you have met a lot of these bad guys. And unfortunately
> >>you mostly have to learn by experience.
> >>
> >>One classic though - which smells really bad - is the small "pilot
> >>project"; if carried out successfully the big project with the fat
> >>budget is waiting for you. However, all sorts of things must be changed
> >>or polished because "the pilot project must be perfect and approved
> >>before we launch the big job". You work like a mad only to find out that
> >>"the big job is canceled by the stupid superiors".
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>shamil at users.mns.ru 05/02 1:23 pm >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>Hello Gustav --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Some of these companies promise you the World
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Yes, I have "been there seen that..."
> >>
> >><<<
> >>but the bad ones you just have to learn how
> >>
> >>
> >>>they smell so you can step back before real work is delivered.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Do you have some special "detectors" for this their bad smelling? :)
> >>I mean the cliche words, behavioral patterns they use to postpone
> >>payment or
> >>even cancel any payments?
> >>
> >>They are usually in a hurry and don't have time for any, even very
> >>short
> >>specs - right?
> >>When the first (prototype) version is delivered they change their mind
> >>considerably and are trying to force you to redo a lot and again
> >>without any
> >>specs, formal docs,  advance payments etc. They delay testing of the
> >>ready
> >>software saying their customer didn't pay them yet... They don't have
> >>acceptance test specs, do not want you to spend time to prepare such
> >>specs
> >>in advance and with every test cycle they find new and new "bugs" to
> >>fix,
> >>which are in fact change requests etc.etc.
> >>
> >>Thank you,
> >>Best regards,
> >>Shamil
> >>--
> >>Web: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> >>To: <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:48 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] OT: Friday Humor:
> >>Anewpetitiontosupportoutdated(?)technologies...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Shamil
> >>>
> >>>Some of these companies promise you the World but when it comes to
> >>>paying your invoice they try to reduce it, delay the payment - even
> >>>cancel the payment - by whatever method and excuse they can find or
> >>>
> >>>
> >>by
> >>
> >>
> >>>claiming your delivery to not be as agreed.
> >>>The trick is that you are weak and need your money, thus sooner or
> >>>later you either give up or are ready to whatever compromise just to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>get
> >>
> >>
> >>>some money. I've seen it all. Of course, most companies employ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>decent
> >>
> >>
> >>>people and behave correctly, but the bad ones you just have to learn
> >>>
> >>>
> >>how
> >>
> >>
> >>>they smell so you can step back before real work is delivered.
> >>>
> >>>/gustav
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>shamil at users.mns.ru 05/02 3:12 am >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>What "worst" should I be prepared for?
> >>>
> >>>
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