John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Wed May 25 09:12:53 CDT 2005
The single advantage of stinger is that it always fits on a floppy. Of course Dell, HP and other PCs ship without floppies now so that isn't much of an advantage. I use a USB flash drive for my emergency procedures. SysClean uses the full extent of the latest virus pattern file. So it checks and cleans everything. Stinger check for the worst 40 signatures or something of the sort. Not bad, and I have used it, just not very thorough. I'll have to check out Norman AV. Grisoft is a IIRC German AV company that sells corporate AV products so it has a top notch company behind it, not some guy in his home office - but hey, what am I saying there! John "some guy in his home office" B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:58 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Antivirus Software - Who do we like, who do we notlike? My dad likes Norman Anti Virus, that's available for free as well. I just happen to have a firm belief that you get what you pay for... I'll have to have a look at sysclean, as I think Stigner is fantastic. Does it really kick its ass that much? Jon -----Original Message----- From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] Sent: 25 May 2005 14:55 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Antivirus Software - Who do we like, who do we not like? Gary, Don't do it! My Sister in-law just went through a Norton 2005 issue (because she's too proud to ask). Screwed up the entire PC. Just the last in a long list of Norton problems I've had to hear about. If you're one of those REALLY lucky people then you stand a chance, otherwise the chances are that you will eventually regret it. I was a Norton supporter until the 2005 version was released. I can fully recommend any Norton product up to 2004 (which you can still get for a steal) but I ABSOLUTELY do not recommend Norton 2005. It is quickly rising on my list of most problematic products. I have now removed Norton 2005 from almost as many PCs as McAfee products (which I don't recommend either - yes Jon I know you like McAfee, but like NAV, I used it many years before it started causing more problems than it was worth, we'll just have to agree to disagree :o) If you want to go with something else I recommend CA's security products. Their home products are EZ-AV (uses the same engine as their corporate eTrust AV), EZ firewall (which is apparently re-GUI-ed ZoneLabs) and Pest Patrol are top notch products. Also Trend Micro products are very good. Trends online scan is tops and their downloadable emergency AV "SysClean" is the best (kicks McAfee's Stinger all over the place). Counterspy from Sunbelt Software (which is based on the same engine as Giant AS, MS-AS) but is has more advanced functionality is probably the very best anti-spy. Sunbelt had contracted with Giant to write this for them before MS bought out Giant. The signature updates actually come from MS now! If you want to go the free route Grisoft AV is free for personal use and very good, Sygate Personal Firewall is free for personal use and is very good, and of course MS anti-spy is very good and free. All highly recommended! John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:07 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: [dba-Tech] Antivirus Software - Who do we like, who do we not like? Hi all, I'm looking for opinions here. Got a message from my Norton Antivirus 2000 this morning that my subscription for updates was about to expire and I needed to renew. OK, no big deal, let's to it right now..... so I click the Renew Now button thing and it comes up and tells me that NAV 2000 has been DISCONTINUED and I have to upgrade to 2005 version. I recall hearing people indicate that they had issues with NAV 2005 so I backed out and did not continue - plus they want $39.95 to upgrade. I know I have seen it in stores for less than that. I've been a faithfull NAV user for many years. I have Norton Internet Securiity 2004 on another machine which includes the NAV 2004 - and while I have come to HATE the Norton Firewall, the 2004 Antivirus hasn't caused me any grief. I don't use that machind for E-Mail though. The machine that is expiring is my main e-mail machine and so I do need as good of protection as I can get. The most recent machine I bought - a Notebook from Dell - uses McAfee. That's just what it came with. So maybe Dell has changed over from Norton to McAffee on their new machines? So, please post your stories of horror or success with NAV 2005 - or other versions or even other companies software because I will need to be making a purchase soon and I'm not sure what direction to go. -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. 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