John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Thu May 26 00:29:42 CDT 2005
And I wish you continued success. I sincerely hope no one else has to deal with problematic security software. I just think it's a travesty that big companies like these release poorly written software that it causes problems, crashes, won't uninstall, can't be fixed unless you uninstall/reinstall it... It says something about how they view their customers. If one of us did that we'd be through! John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Haslett, Andrew Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:09 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Antivirus Software - Who do we like, who do we notlike? We use McAffee linked up with Epolicy Orchestrator - 100 odd machines - never had a problem. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2005 7:57 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Antivirus Software - Who do we like, who do we notlike? Consider yourselves lucky. I used McAfee for years and when NAI bought them I got frustrated with the conglomerated mess they put together, the uninstalls no longer worked and it was just a royal PITA. So be it, I moved to use different products in different circumstances. In the following years I didn't run into McAfee much other than when it had caused grief or someone wanted something else. It was still a pain to uninstall. Last year I took on a new small business client with about 15 PCs and half a dozen Macs. One of the few legal multi-pack software they ran was McAfee. I concentrated on getting them working correctly and getting them legal. (I didn't hate McAfee, I just didn't recommend it, so replacing it wasn't on my agenda.) Last fall they got viruses. We checked the whole system and they should have been up to date with McAfee's dat, etc. They were. They still got the viruses. None of my other clients got a virus -zero, zilch, none. And I have at least 5 different AVs going in that regards: NAV, eTrust, EZ-AV, AVG, Panda, F-secure. They asked me to replace McAfee for them when I told them that. CA eTrust went in. One positive, McAffee uninstalled much better than it had been doing in the previous versions :o) About a month later McAfee announced they were going to change the way the did DAT updates. I don't trust any company/brand. I look at it as an ongoing test of dependability and performance. McAfee and now Symantec have failed. I sincerely wish you the best of luck in your choices, John B. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:31 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Antivirus Software - Who do we like, who do we notlike? Yeah, to prove it, I've just run trojan hunter and trend micro's sysclean (just to check for myself too) and they've both come up clean. Jon -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett Sent: 25 May 2005 22:30 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Antivirus Software - Who do we like, who do we notlike? I could have written Jon's message. I've lost track of how many years I've used McAfee -it's been as long as there has been an internet need for it. I've *never* had an infection. I also use SpyBot and AdAware. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda > Sent: 25 May 2005 6:16 am > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: RE: [dba-Tech] Antivirus Software - Who do we like, who do we > notlike? > > I have a fully licenced copy of McAfee VirusScan 9, run in conjunction > with ZoneAlarm Pro. I like McAfee's anti virus products, I don't like > their firewall. ZoneAlarm has no issues with McAfee anymore, they > fixed that within two days of discovering the compatibility problem. > I've been using McAfee for 8 years with no problems. I periodically > check out my pc with Panda online scan, just to be on the safe side, > and it always comes up blank. I'd be perfectly hapy to recommend > McAfee. But make sure you just buy the virusscan, and not the firewall > too. > > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at gmail.com] > Sent: 25 May 2005 14:07 > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: [dba-Tech] Antivirus Software - Who do we like, who do we not > like? > > > Hi all, I'm looking for opinions here. > > Got a message from my Norton Antivirus 2000 this morning that my > subscription for updates was about to expire and I needed to renew. > OK, no big deal, let's to it right now..... so I click the Renew Now > button thing and it comes up and tells me that NAV 2000 has been > DISCONTINUED and I have to upgrade to 2005 version. I recall hearing > people indicate that they had issues with NAV 2005 so I backed out and > did not continue - plus they want $39.95 to upgrade. I know I have > seen it in stores for less than that. > > I've been a faithfull NAV user for many years. I have Norton Internet > Securiity 2004 on another machine which includes the NAV 2004 - and > while I have come to HATE the Norton Firewall, the 2004 Antivirus > hasn't caused me any grief. I don't use that machind for E-Mail > though. The machine that is expiring is my main e-mail machine and so > I do need as good of protection as I can get. > > The most recent machine I bought - a Notebook from Dell - uses McAfee. > That's just what it came with. So maybe Dell has changed over from > Norton to McAffee on their new machines? > > So, please post your stories of horror or success with NAV > 2005 - or other versions or even other companies software because I > will need to be making a purchase soon and I'm not sure what direction > to go. > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally > privileged. 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