[dba-Tech] Windows XP repair on a Ghosted drive

Erwin Craps - IT Helps Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be
Tue Feb 14 01:41:03 CST 2006


A small note on Partition Magic from Symantec.
I recently bought it, to make some changes on my home pc disks.
But it seems that Partition Magic does not support dynamic disks.
So it it's quiet useless to me now....

I also ordered Ghost, but its not deliverd yet..
I suspect that that will work with dynamic disks because it works at
windows level?

Erwin
 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens John Bartow
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 februari 2006 1:13
Aan: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Onderwerp: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows XP repair on a Ghosted drive

Steve,
Sorry, I missed this completely.

The biggest difference between cloning and ghosting is that you're
typically using ghosting as a safety measure of to quickly load various
configurations on testing machines (well - at least I am).

When you're cloning you're mass installing on new machines.

You're often not going to get the luxury of doing all of that prep work
on a dying machine because when the HD dies (or is dying) you probably
don't want to rely on prepping and ghosting it at that point.

Even so I think you would agree that it is much faster to ghost and use
the repair method as you did to recover the OS and apps than it is to
reinstall it all from scratch.

I have heard of another way to do this that involved deleting the WinXP
product installation key but I can't find it now. Anyway it basically
just prompted you for the new ID# and you continue on as before. Maybe
it was some hack that got taken down but its worth googling around for.

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:45 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Windows XP repair on a Ghosted drive

Answered my own question, more or less.  After re-installing Windows
through the Repair option on the Windows XP CD and re-installing all
39 of the blankety blank XP updates, I found something in the "Windows
XP Cookbook" by Allen and Gralla.

The "recipe" involved cloning a Windows system.  I'm sure that anyone
here that manages an s-load of identical workstations in a big company
knows about this. From "Windows XP Cookbook:"

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Use SYSPREP to accomplish this. First, configure and arrange the initial
machine as you like it, using the local administrator account.
Then:

Create a new local administrator. See Chapter 15 for instructions on
creating local users.

Log out of the local administrator account and log in to the new account
you created.

Navigate to the System applet inside Control Panel. Under the Advanced
tab, click the User Profiles button.

Select the one called Administrator that has the local machine's name in
it, and click Copy To.

Click Change in the Permitted to Use section.

Select Everyone in the list. This gives permission for anybody logged
into the computer to use the contents of the profile. Click OK.

Click OK to get out of the Copy To dialog box.

Finally, copy the contents of the Documents and Settings\Administrator
folder to Documents and Settings\Default Users. Ensure that you are
displaying hidden files and folders so that you copy all configuration
files.

Now, run SYSPREP with the following command:

> sysprep -reseal -quiet -mini -pnp


SYSPREP will strip the SIDs off the system, scrub any personal
identifying information from the image, and then shut down the machine.
>From that point, use a drive copying utility to move the images to
multiple machines.

Once the copy is complete, reboot the computer without the floppy and
proceed through mini-Setup again, so that all personal information can
be restored and new SIDs can be generated. Do this on the cloned
computers and the original "prototype" computer.

Discussion

Products like Symantec Ghost are often the quickest way to lay down an
image of a drive onto multiple systems at once. The downside is that by
taking what amounts to a photograph of a machine, any security
identifiers (SIDs) that are stored on the machine are replicated in that
image to other machines. The result would be multiple machines with
identical SIDs, which can cause a lot of problems on your network.

Ghost and DriveImage have SID generators built in, but Microsoft doesn't
support that. The company wants you to use SYSPREP instead, which scrubs
SIDs from an image in a supported fashion so that you can clone a
machine easily.
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I'm not sure that the ailing hard disk on that system would have
survived long enough (it's pretty much toast now), but I'm glad to know
how to get Windows working properly on a cloned drive.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On 2/8/06, Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Group,
>
> I'm just checking up to make sure my conceptions about how to do this 
> are in the ballpark.
>
> My wife's PC has two 160 GB drives, each one divided into two 
> partitions.  We use Norton Ghost to backup the main 160 GB drive to 
> the additional drive.  Windows sees the drives as C and D on the main 
> device, and E and F on the additional drive.
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