John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Thu Mar 16 09:08:28 CST 2006
Because it's detection rates are going down rather than up :o( Even though it was "beta" I installed this on every PC of all my clients who did not purchase a real time spyware scanner (CounterSpy, Pest Patrol or SpySweeper, Panda, etc.). I never had a stability issue with MSAS but since the release of MS Defender I have had a few. I still have problems I have to go in and clean up for them - most likely due to MS's allowance of its pals spyware to not be flagged as such. Given that - there are still a lot of spyware that haven't chummed up to MS so it does catch and clean those quite well. I installed SpybotS&D and Adaware on all of those PCs too, so I basically update them and clean up what MSAS missed. If things get nasty then I have to do more. Basically its all just an irritation since most of these PCs shouldn't be allowed to get infected but weak mgt at the location precludes a more aggressive stance on Interent usage. Another thing with CounterSpy, Pest Patrol and SpySweeper is that they have network editions (under various titles) that can be used at a higher level than the local PC. SpySweeper is not my favorite either and their free version is a waste of time. But there full product is consistently good. I never stick all my eggs in one basket. If I had I would have gone crazy when Norton 2005 was released - what piece of crap. I expect utilities to save time and prevent problems not cause them! Up until then I preferred Norton for smaller settings. -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Scott Marcus Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:30 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Norton Antivirus Activation John Bartow, Why is MS-AS "a joke these days"? My personal experience with MS-AS is that it's the best freebie and even better than SpySweeper. As far as CounterSpy and Pest Patrol, I don't know. I don't go by what the reviews say is the top rated (unless it's a new product, which then gets me to try it). I've actually used all of the ones you mention except CounterSpy and Pest Patrol. I still find MS-AS to be the best balance between getting the job done and hogging system resources. My experience with MS-AS is that it removes the stuff it finds, which I've never been able to get Spybot and Adaware to do correctly. I don't stick all my eggs into one basket either. I leave MS-AS running and run the other 2 freebies periodically (monthly/bimonthly). Scott Marcus PS. Spybot's teatimer (while annoying) works rather well.