John Bartow
john at winhaven.net
Thu Mar 16 09:25:43 CST 2006
AFAIK MSAS and Giant will not operate for much longer. When MS bought Giant they honored the contracts that Giant had in existence. There an explanation posted somewhere on MS's site. CounterSpy was actually a project that Sunbelt had contracted Giant for. It was originally a "business version" of Giant-AS. And originally I hated the UI as much as Giant's AS UI. I still don't care for it much. Of all the AS products I think I like Spybot's UI the best. Since then MS bought Giant and Sunbelt has been redesigning it as needed to alleviate the need for signature updates from MS. They now have three sources of data updates that incorporated into their product(s). They are close to releasing a new version which has better real-time scanning and prevention than previously (which has been described as "close to real time"). I have a personal opinion of where this technology came from but will keep that opinion to myself. The nice thing about using Pest patrol and CounterSpy is that they both utilize quite different approached to the problem. Last night I had to go onsite because an local emergency response office couldn't access the internet. (Not that it would cause any problems in handling the emergency.) I went thinking they screwed up their network settings somehow. BTW my first visit there, a new client (one that I have to have a long talk with ;o) I immediately noticed some bad signs of infection and the machine was crawling along pretty miserably. They had NAV 2003 installed but it had been expired for about 2 months! So I ran Trend Micro's sysclean in Safe Mode (that took forever). Luckily no viruses. I rebooted and installed the CounterSpy free trial from my flash drive and it found over 3000 infected files from approx 20 spyware products. They had tried Adware before me. Problem is they couldn't update it or I think it would have found a lot more of them. Anyway, a lot of dinking around for, IMO, no reason. They shouldn't have been using that PC for surfing the web like it had been used. We'll be putting some real time up to date protection on later today when they get clearance from the boss. Given the cost of cleanup vs that of prevention it's a no brainer! -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:16 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Norton Antivirus Activation I use a combination of Spybot, Ad-Aware, Giant (not installed the MS version yet), Zonealarms anti-spyware feature of the pro version of the firewall, and counter spy. Seems to pick up most things :-) Jon -----Original Message----- From: Josh McFarlane [mailto:darsant at gmail.com] Sent: 16 March 2006 13:54 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Norton Antivirus Activation On 3/16/06, Scott Marcus <marcus at tsstech.com> wrote: > My experience with MS-AS is that it removes the stuff it finds, which > I've never been able to get Spybot and Adaware to do correctly. I > don't stick all my eggs into one basket either. I leave MS-AS running > and run the other 2 freebies periodically (monthly/bimonthly). I've never had an issue with Spybot or Ad-Aware not removing something it found. I have however, had issues with MS-AS not finding a bunch of stuff and having to go back behind it with Spybot / Ad-Aware to finish purging. Those two, combined with Hijack-This, have not failed me yet. -- Josh McFarlane "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." -Albert Einstein _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information in this e-mail is confidential and may also be legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and are subject to the legal notice available on request from : webmaster at alcontrol.co.uk ALcontrol Laboratories is a trading division of ALcontrol UK Limited. Registered Office: Templeborough House, Mill Close, Rotherham, S60 1BZ. Registered in England and Wales No 4057291 _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com