Robert
robert at servicexp.com
Fri Aug 17 15:58:38 CDT 2007
Jim, I guess we need to define what you mean by "hot and cold lines". If you applying these term as (hot)=L1 and (cold)= Neutral in typical 120v utility provided power then we are talking about the same thing. When L1 (the small prong on the plug) and Neutral (the larger prong on the plug) are reversed that is called "reversed polarity", Most of these systems are equipped with polarity recognition system. Meaning when reversed polarity is detected they shut down and generally give indication of the condition, allowing no harm to any attached (or it self for that matter) device. We may not be talking about the same thing.... WBR Robert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:20 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved Hi Robert: You are correct. There are only problems when the hot and cold lines get crossed or there is a major short like a toaster has a melt down then the recognition system is irrelevant. Many years ago there was a LAN network system called ARCNet. It was also known as the bard-wire network because of its ability to run on virtually any wiring. To compensate the NIC cards were really built heavy duty. The circuits were large enough to solder with a wood burning tool and the Capacitors were a thick as a finger. I have yet to see such heavy-duty equipment in today's computers. I have always mistrusted these 'through the house wiring type networks' but in some cases they may be OK... It is just that the local network community say they are the greatest things... for business as components are always failing. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 4:29 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved Jim, I was under the impression that most, in not all, now have built in polarity recognition system? WBR Robert -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:47 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved Hi Rocky: This solution is a great way to do LAN wiring without the need to re-run cables around a building. The concept has been out there in various implementations for years but there are a couple of gotcha'. 1. The house/building wiring can be poor... no better than bad LAN wiring. House/Building wiring is generally of a poor quality in compared with standard network wiring. The impedance should be within a tight range... notice the numbering on the LAN cabling. Poor quality wiring can eventually fry you NIC cards and routers. 2. The whole scheme requires that the wiring has been setup correctly. No cross-overs between the hot and cold alternate cabling. A good profession electrician will have wired a house correctly but get a few amateurs mucking around and you will never know which line in hot. (Ever wonder why the plugs have two different sized holes/prongs) If your circuit somehow gets crossed or shorted, you can easily blow out all your electrical equipment. Just a note. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:23 PM To: dba-ot at databaseadvisors.com; List Subject: [dba-Tech] Wireless Problem Solved Couple of years a go I had a wire run from the router down to Pundit's office. Last year the wire failed somewhere in the middle. Re-running the wire was an unattractive proposition so I got a wireless adapter for her but the signal was weak and it was shaky. So I upgraded the router to this super netgear job. Good router still not strong enough signal. Lots of teeth gnashing and unhappiness. A month ago I got an Airlink repeater. The signal was not incredibly strong but not reliable. Changed channels. No soap. Talked to numerous tech supporters all over the Indian sub-continent. Today I returned it to Fry's. What I came home with was a couple of widgets from Netgear called 'Wall-Plugged Ethernet Extender Kit'. You RJ45 one of them to your router, then plug it into the wall. You RJ45 the other one to the target computer and plug it into the wall. And viola! It uses the wiring in the house in place of the CAT-5. So now she's commected with what seems to be a very solid connection. Just like a ran a wire down there. 4 minute install. No software. No configuring. Plug 'n' Play. If this works as advertised, there's no need to run CAT-5 anywhere or even do wireless (unless you want to walk around with a laptop. Just use the house wiring. How long has this been going on? Who knew? (Probably some of you, I'm sure). 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