[dba-Tech] Storebought WHS

Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com
Mon Dec 31 15:41:26 CST 2007


It's XP Pro. Interestingly enough I unplugged the wired connection and
enabled the wireless and it installed the client piece without any
complaints. So evidently had I dont that originally I would have not
had any problems to complain about. I'm guessing that something
network wise is configured correctly on the wireless and is not quite
as it wants it to be on the wired connection. Netbios or Netbui or
some other network thing that I don't know about nor do I want to ;-)
It was getting all the way to the end of the install and then erroring
with a message that allowed me to go back and try it again from the
point of "searching for the server".

Anyway, it's working now. My wifes laptop is being backed up over the
wireless connection now. It's showing 78% complete. It's only been
running for about 15 minutes. So I'm thinking a full backup over the
wireless in less than a half hour isn't bad at all I think she has a
60 Gb drive. Windows XP Pro and Office 2003. A few of my photos and
quite a lot of Music in Itunes. Once it has a good backup only doing
the changed files should only take a couple minutes.

As soon as hers is backed up Iwill fire off my backup and then I will
have everything backed up. Whew!  That will be a good feeling. I have
had my data files backed up pretty well but I would have been left
with the windows and application installation disks if I had lost a C
drive on any of these. And I have. The one system I had a crash of the
system drive was my least used system though.

It wants everything to have passwords though don't it. I didn't have
passwords on anything. It's got me to add one to one of my systems so
far. Not sure if I will succumb to it's warnings on my other systems.
Is it worth fighting?  Is it really a good idea?  DO you password
protect your systems at home?

GK

On Dec 31, 2007 12:41 PM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Gary,
>
> Thanks for the update.  I have to say I am impressed with WHS all things
> considered.  This is the first release as we all know, not even a service
> pack yet, and I think it runs pretty smoothly.
>
> Is the laptop that you are having problems with windows XP / 2k3 or Vista?
> It can see the server but cannot map the drives or anything?  Can you go in
> to the WHS from another machine and set up the user / password for that
> machine?  What happens when it "dies"?  Any error messages or just hangs?
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:15 PM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Storebought WHS
>
> I bought the Windows Home Server system put together by HP, called the HP
> MediaSmart Server.
>
> http://h71036.www7.hp.com/hho/cache/447351-0-0-225-121.html
>
> I bought it from Amazon for $577.52 including free shipping. I also
> purchased two additional 500 GB SATA disk drives for it from MicroCenter for
> $100 each.
>
> Both the additional drives and the server itself arrived on Friday so on
> Saturday I opend up the boxes and got started. I decided to pop in the new
> drives right off the bat and that went well. You can do it without even
> powering down the server. Just open the front door to access the drives and
> slide out an unused tray, pop in the drive and slide the tray back in. If
> the system is up you need to go into the management console and tell it to
> start using the new drives but since I hadn't gotten that far yet I never
> needed to do that.
>
> I hooked it up to the network and powered it up and all appeared to be as it
> should be. I decided to use my laptop to be the first system to connect to
> the server so I booted it up and connected it to the network via hard wired
> ethernet. Had a bit of trouble getting the wireless to stop working to but
> eventually got that to stop by disabling the wireless and rebooting. I then
> loaded the client software CD and tried to load the Server Management client
> software on the laptop. It bombed out at the point where it was "trying to
> locate server" according to the message. It's right there I thought ;-)
> Look to your right. I disabled the software firewall and tried it again.
> Still no good. I downloaded and ran a Connector Software Trouble Shooter and
> looked at the things it saw as trouble. I tried a bunch of IPCONFIG things
> and things of that nature but had no luck getting the management software to
> install on my laptop. Grrrr. Tried rebooting the server. Tried rebooting the
> laptop.
>
> As I had another system sitting right next to the server, I decided to try
> installing the software on that one and low and behold it installed and ran
> right away. Had no problem finding the server. I was able to assign the main
> system password and set up a couple user accounts and got ths system started
> backing up that system. The backup didn't take too long, but it died at some
> point before it finished and told me that there was a potential problem with
> one of the two hard drives on that system and that I should run chkdsk /f on
> it. Great!
> So after some cursing I got working on that. And while the check disk was
> running I installed the client software on another PC. That one installed
> without any problem either and I got a backup going on it right away. That
> backup finished successfully and I was feeling better about the whole deal.
> Checkdisk finished on the other system eventually and reported nothing that
> it couldn't fix, so after I got it booted back up again I restarted that
> backup there and it ran OK that time.
>
> I decided to have another go at the laptop and was still not able to get it
> to install that client peice. I even tried to install the software FROM the
> server itself which it could see and map a drive to and that didn't work
> either. It got to just before the installation should have been complete and
> it died.
>
> I then installed the software on my main system - a Windows Vista system and
> it installed there without any issues and I got the backup run there
> successfully too.
>
> I still have my wifes laptop to try the client install and backup on before
> I try it on my own laptop once more. I think i will try it using the regular
> wireless netowrk connection on her system.
>
> The nightly backups ran fine on two of those three systems last night
> although it failed on the third - the same system that I was told to do the
> checkdisk on. Upon further investigation I found that Windows Update had
> caused a reboot on that system last night and it evidently happened while
> the backup was running. It was sitting at the select user reboot screen this
> morning and after I got it booted up I restarted the backup and it worked
> just fine.
>
> At this point I haven't done any of the other things that I can use this
> server for - sharing ITUNES music, allowing remote access to other systems,
> and I don't even remember what else all it can do for me. My main interest
> is in it's backup capabilities. I now have my 3 desktops all backed up but I
> still have the two laptops to get backed up.
>
> The server itself is very quiet. MUCH quieter than the other PC that is
> sitting right next to it. I determined that this morning after I shut down
> that system after getting it successfully backed up. It's about half the
> height of a normal tower system and about 2/3 the depth. Kind of cute
> actually ;-)  I know that's important to a lot of people.
>
> So at this early stage other than the one install issue I am having with the
> laptop I am pretty happy with it. Of the 1.5 Terrabytes of disk it has, it
> said that 1.2 terrabytes were still free after backing up the 2 Windows XP
> Pro desktops and the one Vista Home Premium Desktop.
>
> I'll tell you more when I have more to tell.
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
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