artful at rogers.com
artful at rogers.com
Thu Jan 25 08:41:29 CST 2007
All this is true. However, there are abundant translators available, and when you examine the code side by side, the translators are not quite rocket-science to create. (Dim translates into x, CRLF translates into ";", etc.).
That said, one can easily code in VB.NET and then translate it into C# for increased revenue. And the people who will pay more for Y rather than X are stupid. Nothing morally incorrect for billing stupid people large amounts of dollars LOL. If you're comfortable in VBA then develop in VB.NET but translate it into C# and increase your billing rate accordingly (add ~25/hr for the "deep" c# code).
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From: JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:30:32 AM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What Platform for Web Application?
Visual Studio is an environment for building applications. VB.Net is ONE of
many languages which can be used from within Visual Studio. C# is another,
JAVA (IIRC) and several more. All of these languages are a thin veneer over
the .Net framework which provides most of the actual functionality. All of
these languages compile down to a intermediate language similar to Assembly
language. THAT is then compiled down to actual machine language.
VB.Net seems to be the most popular if you use the "most people use it"
measurement". C# seems to be the most popular by SERIOUS developers (in
their own minds) and often by companies who have been sold on the "if it
ain't C it ain't real programming" mentality. C# and VB.Net each have a few
valid programming structures that the other does not have, but in general,
both are adequate for 99% of the tasks you will run into.
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:12 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
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Bookmarked! SO VB.NET is the language used by Visual Studio?
Rocky
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What Platform for Web Application?
Rocky
Have a look at this. Its from 2003 so a little out of date with .NET 2 etc
now.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa192490(office.11).aspx
But should give you a general idea. I would also do some background work on
classes. I believe Charlotte has lots of experience in .NET stuff.
Martin
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
tel: 02890 974477
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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Thu 25/01/2007 11:47
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] What Platform for Web Application?
Yes, VS 2005 would be an excellent choice in which to recreate the Sleep
Advisor. Given its lack of db-complexity, you could have a prototype working
in a day or two.
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From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:19:17 AM
Subject: [dba-Tech] What Platform for Web Application?
So I'm thinking once again about learning a web platform so I can convert
two applications and I need a little advice.
The Sleep Advisor requires a minimum of data. Just a few yes/no and 1-5
type responses and less than a couple hundred items, at most. It's not even
split FE/BE. It is an Access run-time at the moment but if it could be
converted to a web-based platform, we could charge per use on the internet,
instead of selling the program.
I have Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition which I have to try to learn.
Would this be a good platform to deploy The Sleep Advisor on the web?
In my Action Pack I also see something called Visual Web Developer 2005 -
Express Edition, which also looks, from the Microsoft web page on the
product like a good tool for this application. But the code is very
proprietary and needs to be protected and I don't know if you can do this
with VWD.
Anyway, would VS2005 be a good tool to re-create the Sleep Advisor? The
diagnostic engine has about 7000 lines of VBA and copying it over to VB and
tweaking it to make it run under VB would save a lot of work. Or is this an
illusion?
I am also thinking about E-Z-MRP which is a major application by bulk and
scale and would require a lot of work. But what for the back end? Can a
VS2005 application use an mdb? Or does it need SQL Server?
Anyway I'm also wondering why I don't lay down until the feeling passes.
But any advice is welcome.
TIA
Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:58 AM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] (Fwd) Microsoft Breaks HTML Email Rendering in
Outlook 2007
Thanks Stuart
One more reason to avoid HTML e-mail.
/gustav
>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 11-01-2007 02:52 >>>
Forwarded from another list I subscribe to:
---------included stuff follows ------------ SitePoint Blogs » Microsoft
Breaks HTML Email Rendering in Outlook
2007
The following is republished from the Tech Times #156.
If support for web standards in browsers is improving slowly,
then support in email clients is moving at a glacial pace.
Attempts to document things like CSS support in the major
email clients have revealed a depressing state of affairs, but
with recent desktop clients like Thunderbird now sitting on
solid rendering engines, things have been looking up.
All that changed when Microsoft dropped a lump of coal into
every web developer´s stocking with the end-of-year release to
business customers, and the upcoming consumer release, of
Outlook 2007.
...
But late last month, a thread in the SitePoint Forums caught
my eye. Microsoft had published a pair of articles describing
the support for HTML and CSS in Outlook 2007, and the news
wasn´t good:
Microsoft Office Outlook 2007 uses the HTML parsing
and rendering engine from Microsoft Office Word 2007 to
display HTML message bodies. The same HTML and cascading
style sheets (CSS) support available in Word 2007 is
available in Outlook 2007.
The limitations imposed by Word 2007 are described in detail
in the article, but here are a few highlights:
* no support for background images (HTML or CSS)
* no support for forms
* no support for Flash, or other plugins
* no support for CSS floats
* no support for replacing bullets with images in
unordered lists
* no support for CSS positioning
* no support for animated GIFs
In short, unless your HTML emails are very, very simple,
you´re going to run into problems with Outlook 2007, and in
most cases the only solution to those problems will be to
reduce the complexity of your HTML email design to accommodate
Outlook´s limited feature set.
With the release of Outlook 2007, Microsoft is effectively
adding an entirely new rendering engine to the mix-one that
designers producing HTML email will not be able to ignore.
Not only that, but this new rendering engine isn´t any better
than that which Outlook previously used-indeed, it´s far
worse. With this release, Outlook drops from being one of the
best clients for HTML email support to the level of Lotus
Notes and Eudora, which, in the words of Campaign Monitor´s
David Grenier, "are serial killers making our email design
lives hell."
Why on earth would Microsoft do such a thing? Security?
Microsoft has been shouting from the rooftops about the new
security model in Internet Explorer 7 that prevents the nasty
security issues that have plagued Outlook in the past. It
seems Microsoft doesn´t buy its own publicity, however,
because this move sends the message that Internet Explorer´s
security model is not to be trusted.
...
... you may want to consider giving your Outlook-based readers
an easy way to switch to text-only email.
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