jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Mon Jun 18 07:58:49 CDT 2007
IPCop apparently started as Smoothwall. I found a "roadmap" for IPCop that mentions "removing final traces of smoothwall". I can tell you that the setup screens are very similar, same wording, same buttons in the same locations, same screen sequences etc. They both discuss "red/green/blue/orange LAN sections" (Wan/Trusted/Wireless/DMZ). Thus I do believe that IPCop is a branch of smoothwall. At any rate I did use Smoothwall's docs to do the setup and managed to get all the way through this time. I have not dropped it in in place of my router yet to see if it is functioning. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:28 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IPCop Firewall Hi John: I personally do not at this time do not have Smoothwall but have installed it for a client and they have been very happy with it. Until you mentioned it I had never heard of IPCop. At first blush, the products sound similar but they do not seem to be the same... maybe someone else on the list could answer this question. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 2:24 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IPCop Firewall Jim, Do you use Smoothwall? BTW IPCop and smoothwall appear (to the extent I have managed to get) to be identical programs. Every single screen so far has been identical. IPCop did recognize my onboard drivers whereas Smoothwall did not. However I was unable to get install docs for IPCop (the redirects to the download server are broken) so I apparently now have docs, even if they say smoothwall on them. If I am going to make this happen I am going to need some hand holding to get past the install. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:21 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IPCop Firewall Hi John: For VPN software I would recommend Hamachi (http://www.hamachi.cc/download/list.php), (Comes in both Windows and Linux versions). They are the creators of LogMeIn software (https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/download.asp) ... It is free, allows you to pass through any firewall on any system and allows you to create and access your virtual network any location. Of course if you are moving to the dark side, there is SmoothWall Linux (http://www.smoothwall.org/about/ and http://www.smoothwall.org/get/), which can fit on any old beater box, from which you can create an excellent programmable seriously secure firewall between your data computers and the outside world. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:55 PM To: support at cheqsoft.com; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IPCop Firewall I currently have a router that serves just fine as a simple firewall - NAT and all that. However I really want to get VPN working so that I can VPN into my office when I am out of town. My current router does VPN pass-through, i.e. I have to have some PC inside of the firewall running VPN functionality and then allowing the other machines to see the VPN. I looked at small business and personal routers that claim to do VPN and basically it appears to be a crapshoot. Of those users who say they try to use VPN, 50% say they do it no problem, the other 50% claim to have tried and given up. It doesn't seem to matter what brand / model, they all seems to be less than stellar. Until you are willing to pay 300 and up for a Cisco, whereupon you can get great reports, and comments like "great if you are a notwork guy, hard to set up". I do not particularly want to spend hundreds of dollars for a big iron router, and I don't want a router that I have to have a notworking cert to get running. I kind of thought I would be able to find a Linux software package that would do this, a "boot from cd and go". I googled and searched and read and studied (for several hours) and found nothing like that, not to say that it doesn't exist. I found a lot of "free" firewalls, but they all seem to have dropped development a couple of years ago, no updates etc. I don't want that either. I am willing to spend $50 or $100 for the software, assuming that it is good, and easy, and I have a machine that will run it. I gave away all of my old motherboards awhile ago to a good cause. So I have two machines left that fit the bill, both are MSI K8N Neo Platinum motherboards, nForce3 250g chipset with Athlon 64 3ghz processors. Should be way more than the Linux needs for the application. I actually got IPCop to install, but it is a royal PITA I can tell you that. If you make a mistake anywhere it wants to reboot (forces you to reboot) and then has to reformat and build two partitions, copy files, 10 minutes of crap just because you didn't get something right. Or maybe not, who knows. I am not a Linux guy, and to be honest don't want to be a Linux guy. I wanted a package I could boot, configure and forget. I dicked around with IPCop for 2-3 hours last night and then for some unknown reason the machine decided to not boot any more (won't even post). So I am moving on to other things ATM. 2-3 hours is already more of my time than I want to spend and I never even got to the configure point. Silly really. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com _____ From: support at cheqsoft.com [mailto:support at cheqsoft.com] Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:26 PM To: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] IPCop Firewall Hi John I graduated from IPCop to monowall and pfSense, based on FreeBSD, much the same idea as IPCop, but arguably better in may respects. Particular differences are pfSense is preferable if you are serving from your LAN and wish DNS to work properly, otherwise monowall has less hardware requirement. Can run from CD and floppy disc, with config all in xml. I run from IDE / CF card without a HD at all. What are your requirements? For some reason the list is rejecting my email, something about relaying...??? Can you forward to the list?! (It might be our ISP email server being down though) Kind regards David Hingston. _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com