[dba-Tech] Mcafee Viruscan Central slows down closingform from1 to 40 seconds.

Erwin Craps - IT Helps Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu
Thu Sep 13 03:38:34 CDT 2007


I'm looking at Trend Micro Officescan.
I hear they have a great management tool.

Any experiances with that?


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tydda
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:22 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mcafee Viruscan Central slows down closingform
from1 to 40 seconds.

What I did to combat McAfee's slowing down of things was to uninstall it
and put AVG on instead.


Jon

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 13 September 2007 09:08
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Mcafee Viruscan Central slows down closing form
from1 to 40 seconds.


Hi Erwin

It is for a reason that we do not recommend our clients to run this
package, not even the OEM version supplied with some machines. If they
insist, we stress that they must be prepared for all sort of troubles.
That said, some machines run nicely with the package. The situation is
the same for Symantec/Norton.

Our first choice is CA E-trust which costs a little but never has caused
trouble for us.

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu 13-09-2007 09:06 >>>
Hi
 
I found this pretty gross of McAfee so I wanted to know if someone had
the same issue and what you done to resolve it.
 
I have written an application in Access for inventorising a real estate
property in order to generate a value estimation of the property. The
application keep a list of question and answer and generates a form to
display on a tablet pc which is carried around the property by the
expert.
 
The form is pretty large around 16 tabs and a combined number of +/- 500
questions and their answers. It is mainly this form that causes a
problem with McAfee anti virus. The form is unbound and loads/saves data
when opening/closing (only saves date when a change is noticed).
 
The application was running very smootly on three computers (2 tablets,
one desktop) until a certain McAfee update about 1,5 year ago. 
Suddenly, after this update was installed, closing the form took a huge
time even without saving the data. Instead of 1 or 2 seconds, the form
took 40 seconds to close, without saving data!!! We quickly found that
it was the virusscanner that caused the issue. I tried to add an
exclusion for MDB, but that is not posible in that Virusscanner. So we
decided to deactivate the viruscanner. 
Yesterday, one and a half year later, I installed the latest version
(11.x) Mcafee Anti Virus, and the problem still is present.
I contacted McAfee support, several times, the frontline people where
not really knowledgeable about there own soft and my case was escalated
to a higher level. In the meanwhile I supplied them with some additional
information where I believe the problem is situated.
 
Apparantly, when I open this form, Access creates 508 temporary file in
the "local settings\temp" folder. I suspect 1 for each control. The file
are named "~[random].TMP". The virusscanner does not slow down the
opening and getting data very much (and creating those 508 tmp files),
let's say 1 or 2 seconds, for which I'm ok with. But closing the form
(without saving data), delays the form from 2 to 40 seconds, it freezes
Access. When I take a look at the temp folder, I see that deleting those
tmp files, or whatever is related to that action, is what causing the
delay. Files are fully deleted after those 40 seconds.
 
What is causing the delay of 40 seconds, is it deleting those 508 tmp
files or is it some MDB updating that is done before deleting each file?
 
Because the form has worked perfectly for a period of 2 years togheter
with Mcafee, until a certain update, I suspect McAfee added the TMP
extension to the "document and programs" list (the virusscaner has
always been set to doc and prog). But then again, why is McAfee freesing
Access for 40 seconds while DELETING the files???
 
The response from McAfee was that they are aware that using MDB's with
the virusscaner are problematic and they do not have a solution for it,
since 1 year and a half!!! They found it was not that problematic. I
told him that if the users opens this form 100 times a day (which is
probably the case) he had to wait 1,5 hours per day....
 
I asked if I could add an exclusing to the virusscanner but this is not
posible. So I said that I then my only option is to install another
brand of virusscaner, he answered that the user could turn of the
virusscanner off/on while he uses the form... 100 times a day!!!
 
Great support :-(
 
I used to love McAfee, but the problems I have with them and the level
of support in the last 2 or 3 years are sickening.
 
 
 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 


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