jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Mon Jan 28 11:37:20 CST 2008
I absolutely agree. The onboard raid will not work the same with a new motherboard and so all data in the raid array will be lost. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:50 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Performance in disc partitions I personally would never use an onboard raid to store data. If U use a removable controller you can swap controller and disks to another system when your system is defect. Doing so you have your data back in a few minutes... Since the OS is pretty much system depending, you could use the onboard raid only for your OS disk. Erwin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John) Robinson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:38 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Performance in disc partitions All my discs seem just fine, and have just been thrashed by PassMark's Performance Test. HD Tune (v2.54) never gets to the stage of looking at them, as far as I can tell. (Tried re-installing: no difference.) Maybe another day, another system. Thanks anyway John -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: 28 January 2008 15:47 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Performance in disc partitions Hummm, never had any problem with HD Tune on any system I ever used it. Maybe you have a disk prob? -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John) Robinson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:08 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Performance in disc partitions Hi Erwin I tried HDtune, but it spends most of its time Not Responding so I've binned it. May be something to do with my system, of course. John -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: 28 January 2008 10:18 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Performance in disc partitions The edge of the disk also means lower access times. I don't know why because RPM is the same at the inner as outer side of the disk. I know that CD drives change their RPM speed depending how far they are on the inner and outer side of a cd so the laser can keep up reading the data, don't know if that is true for HD. That could be an explanation for lower access times, because it takes longer for the data to pass the head. You can check http://www.hdtune.com/ it's a free disk performance check, it will show you the transfer rate / access time for your disk over the whole disk. Erwin -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John) Robinson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:34 AM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Performance in disc partitions Thanks, John. That would suggest higher transfer rates nearer the edge, with some cylinders holding more than others. Has anyone got any good links to this sort of stuff? Oh, and of course I'm still interested in knowing whether the 'first' partition is nearer the edge or the spindle... John -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: 28 January 2008 00:57 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Performance in disc partitions IIRC, the disk controller speeds up the writes as the tracks move outwards towards the edge of the platter. IOW there is more surface area on the outer tracks so they just bump up the waveform to allow more data to be written in that larger surface area. When thought of from that perspective, the outer tracks hold more data / track and so may require less head movement. I have no idea whether the first volume is on the inner tracks or the outer tracks. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John) Robinson Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:47 PM To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [dba-Tech] Performance in disc partitions I am about to partition a new disc. One partition will be very active in terms of reads and writes, another almost dormant. Is there any advantage in performance terms in having the active partition as the 'first' one on the disc? Or the last one? It's a long time since I was involved in disc layout at a low level, and I'm wondering whether 'cylinders' these days are still all the same size, with the data near the edge of the platter just more spread out than that near the spindle - or not? 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