[dba-Tech] Downgrading Vista

DJK(John) Robinson djkr at msn.com
Tue Jul 15 08:11:12 CDT 2008


I assume the difference between Express and Custom is simply that Express
does what it wants, while Custom lets you choose.  I *always* use Custom - I
like to see in advance what MS might be doing, and decide whether to let it,
which I *nearly* always do.

The reboot thing may be just a myth; after all, it's the same set of
patches, isn't it!

John


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hooper
Sent: 15 July 2008 12:44
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista


I received the opposite advice, e.g. use Custom mode, because it required
fewer reboots. The updating went relatively quickly.

Fred

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Gajewski
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista

Karen

The only caveat that I can add is that when you run Windows Update after a
clean install, *always* use the Express mode, repeatedly, until there are no
more automatically-selected updates. Then - and only then - run Windows
Update in the Custom mode to finish tweaking your system. That has always
worked for me.
 
Regards,
Bob Gajewski

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 23:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista


I suspect that is an absolute load of crap.

I have loaded multiple different PC's over the years with the Same XP disk
and not had any hassles.  You can use old lic keys - you have paid for it
and if the machine the OS is installed on dies, you can move that OS and key
to another unit - if you have any bother a call to Microsoft usually sorts
it out and they ensure that your key is valid, although I rarely have any
bother, I have only ever had to call them once.

I think you said you have wiped the disk clean, but if not, I would do a
full disk wipe and reformat.  Then boot off the XP disk from the BOIS (press
F12 on a dell i think during boot).

Windows should install from the CD directly.  I would suggest having the
beast wired into your internet connection so it can download stuff during
the install.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel
Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 12:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista

OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support  and explained the
situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all
upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they
came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd
that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and
registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him.
Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I
upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code.

The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me
that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd.

This is really and truly annoying me.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:53 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista

I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine,
recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA.

I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to
get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this
email.

It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in
performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE.

Dan

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista

There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the
new Serial ATA hard drives.  Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right
through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista

Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible.  Apparently some
manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is
out.  I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had
HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista

I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro
and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either
one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the
following (useless) message:

STOP: 0x0000007E
(0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08)

Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c

How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista?

TIA

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA

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