[dba-Tech] DB/OS market statistics

Arthur, Jim

 >The other point of the .Net languages is odd considering there is nothing
 >that VB.Net can do the C#.Net can not, they can both be in the same
 >assemblies at the same time (mix and match) and their performance 
times are
 >identical.

Arguably a machine can translate from one to the other much more easily 
than any hominid who has not fully assimilated each syntax, as few of us 
have.

PB


Jim Lawrence wrote:
> Hi Arthur:
>
> I think they are. At one time I was a fully certified SCO Unix installer and
> administrator and I recognize virtually everything in Linux. I think a guru
> in Linux is guru in UNIX. I bet it is just because Linux can be free and
> UNIX can cost a lot of money and that makes it prestigious.
>
> The other point of the .Net languages is odd considering there is nothing
> that VB.Net can do the C#.Net can not, they can both be in the same
> assemblies at the same time (mix and match) and their performance times are
> identical. 
>
> The whole thing relates around perception, prestige and that managers that
> hire the techs still have real idea about technology. When a manager asks
> whether a database can be programmed in MS Access that means he is looking
> for a system around 5 to 10 thousand as opposed to 20,000 to 50,000 that he
> would expect to pay for a Java/Oracle DB; add UNIX into the mix and you
> could add another 50,000 to the price.
>
> Perception = Reality.
>
> Jim   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:37 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] DB/OS market statistics
>
> Several things puzzle me about these graphs and their market-reflections. I
> would have thought, for example, that Linux and Unix were interchangeable,
> that anyone good at Linux could apply for a Unix gig and vice-versa. But
> compare the gaps. Similarly, there are abundant code-translators that will
> switch VB.NET to C#. In fact, if you look at the two languages as in the
> tutorials supplied by MS, they are remarkably similar and it's no surprise
> that a program could go through and make the changes from one language to
> the other. Find the line-terminators and substitute semi-colons; flip
> declarations around slightly and lose the "Dim" word; wrap blocks in curly
> braces; etc. How hard is that?
>
> Admittedly some constructs are trickier, but it doesn't take very long
> looking at the step-by-step tutorial code to see the similarities. And yet
> the marketplace feels a greater lack of supply for C# than VB.NET, and also
> pays about $20 an hour more for C# too, judging by my local marketplace.
> This goes to prove, methinks, that elitism too has inheritance. C# is for
> "serious" programmers; VB for -- hmm, what's the opposite of serious?
> Amateur? Trivial? Casual? Pop? Anyway, you get my drift.
>
> Arthur
>
> On 3/16/08, Tina Norris Fields <tinanfields at torchlake.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hmmm, verrrrrry interesting.  So, we had better upgrade our Java and C++
>> skills, along with our Oracle and MS SQL skills.  I just started a Linux
>> course.  Looks like that might have been a smart move.
>> T.
>>
>>
>>     
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