Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields at torchlake.com
Thu Mar 27 15:13:23 CDT 2008
Thanks for trying, anyway. I may put a new VM in the WMWare Server, too, and talk more with you about it. Tina jwcolby wrote: > You know what, I do not use the Microsoft VM stuff. There are a couple of > reasons, the MS VMs can't see USB ports apparently, and also the disks that > you can create and add to the VM are not as flexible from the way I read it. > So basically I use the VMWare server. It loads on top of my Windows 2003 > Server OS and can run several different VMs at the same time. It can also > operate in native 64 bit mode and one of my Windows 2003 servers is running > the x64 version. > > I can't help you at all with the MS version of VMs. You don't have to use > them though. In fact the same VM that runs on a Linux VM Server machine can > be moved to and run on the VMWare server software running on top of a > Windows OS, or so I understand. One of the VERY cool things about the > VMWare stuff. The Windows VMs can only run on Windows host OSes. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:49 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VM for different versions of Access > > John, > Thanks again for the reply. > Now, here comes my VM newbie dumb question. > For the Linux machine, I had to download a "Linux appliance." (This was a > VMWare Server installation, so a VMWare appliance.) For the Windows VM, I'm > using the Microsoft Virtual PC. Where do I go for the appropriate "Windows > appliance" (or whatever name it gets in the Microsoft setting)? > Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. > Tina > > > jwcolby wrote: > >> Ahh... Good job, teach me to READ the original post closely. 8-0 >> >> Yep, yep and yep. You can make them locally, then copy them to the >> external drive, and yes, delete the originals on the main machine once >> they are moved. >> >> As long as the host machine has the VM server software installed you >> can even move them from machine to machine for processing. I have two >> fairly hefty servers and a laptop. I have installed the server >> software on all the machines so I can just execute the VMs wherever I need >> > to. > >> External drives are really pretty speedy. Often the USB channel can >> read / write as fast as the disk so there is no apparent effect of >> running external. >> >> John W. Colby >> Colby Consulting >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina >> Norris Fields >> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:51 PM >> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VM for different versions of Access >> >> Hey John, >> >> Thanks for the reply. It's not a thumb drive, it's a powered 120 GB >> external hard drive, USB connected to my main computer, which is a >> Dell Inspiron 9400 laptop. >> >> Let's see if my thinking is fitting in with what you have just told me. >> 1) I install the VM Server software on my host machine (already done). >> 2) I create my VM with WindowsXP Pro as the OS. >> 3) I install onto my VM the "stuff I gotta have." >> 4) I copy my VM to provide one each for whatever versions of Office I >> > need. > >> 5) Now, I copy my completed VMs to my external hard drive. >> 6) Can I then delete the original VMs that I made on my main machine >> hard drive? >> >> For the class I'm taking on Linux, I installed a VM for Fedora-7 on my >> external hard drive, and it ran. I'm wanting to put as much as >> possible off on the external drive to keep the main computer as free >> as possible. So far, the difference in speed hasn't been a real >> factor. I don't deal in "humungous" databases the way you do. Could >> happen, some day, though, so I take your advice seriously. >> >> Thanks again for the reply. Am I thinking straight, here? >> >> Tina >> >> jwcolby wrote: >> >> >>> Tina, >>> >>> The first question is why the thumb drive? They are small and slow. >>> IIWM, I would do it on a normal external disk. Remember that you >>> need not only office but Windows itself. Plus you likely want other >>> apps that you use all the time such as 3DFTP or UltraEdit or FireFox. >>> >>> Once you have the VM created and all set up with these "also gotta >>> haves", then copy the VM and install Office97 on one copy, Office 2K >>> on another copy, Office 2K3 on another copy etc. They will be small >>> but still probably at least 10 gigs or so each. Having done that, >>> buy a small laptop hard drive and an external USB driven container to >>> put it in. Place all the VMs on that and carry that around in your >>> briefcase >>> >>> >> or laptop case. >> >> >>> As for whether the VMs will run over a usb, AFAIK they will. The >>> HOST machine has to have the SERVER software installed to run it however. >>> This is another reason to bring along your laptop. Install the >>> server software on that and then just plug in the disk to your laptop and >>> > go. > >>> You can of course also place the server install package on the disk >>> along with the VMs but then you have to do the VM server software >>> install on any machine that you want to run the VMs on. >>> >>> John W. Colby >>> Colby Consulting >>> www.ColbyConsulting.com >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina >>> Norris Fields >>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:55 AM >>> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>> Subject: [dba-Tech] VM for different versions of Access >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Double-posting, since this is a technical virtual machine question >>> but involves Access. >>> >>> The database I wrote about that got corrupted has been mostly repaired. >>> That is to say the tables are intact, all the data are there, and the >>> table relationships are good. However, there are bits and pieces >>> that definitely are out of whack. I am going to remodel the >>> database, to use only the features the client actually uses and >>> wants, to restore the switchboard interface the client likes, and >>> then split the sucker into a proper BE and FE. Client agrees. Here >>> is the puzzle: client uses Access97. My machine is WinXP Pro with Office >>> > 2003. > >>> I would like to install a virtual machine and run Office 97 in that >>> machine (yes, I still have a licensed copy on the shelf - >>> unbelievable!). I would like that machine to reside on my USB >>> external >>> >>> >> drive. Is this do-able? >> >> >>> What are the gotchas I need to watch out for? >>> >>> I have Microsoft's VirtualPC installed as well as VMWare's Server. >>> The MS VirtualPC seems the better candidate for making a virtual >>> machine to run another version of Office. >>> >>> Suggestions? Ideas? Watch-out fors? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tina >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dba-Tech mailing list >>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dba-Tech mailing list >> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >