jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Thu Mar 27 16:28:34 CDT 2008
Which would imply that if a VM isn't running, then you don't need a license for that machine, at that instance. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin W Reid Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:43 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VM for different versions of Access John Its an issue we have come up against. I have a meeting with MS licensing when I get back to work. We will be running development platforms for each developer - Windows Server 2003/MOSS 2007/Office 2007/VS 2005 and SQL Server. The cost to us for each VM could be huge. The theory as I understand it is that you do need a licence for each OS running in a VM and that applies to Office etc as well. I will get a better picture of what they expect once I get back to work. I think its just like having another physical machine sitting beside you and they would expect licences for that. Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk ________________________________________ From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby [jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: 27 March 2008 20:35 To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VM for different versions of Access The whole "buy a version of windows to run on your already running version of windows" is a little lame. OTOH if you are a linux guru you can run linux on the hardware (server) and then run your XP License on the virtual machine. Do you need a new copy of XP for every virtual machine if you are only running one VM at a time? Hmm... I think they (MS) are trying to handle the instance of companies running 5 virtual machines AT THE SAME TIME on a single server. Obviously you need a new license of Windows for each VM in that case. It is not so obvious in your case. If you are a developer, you would be well advised to get the action pack which gives you 10 copies of the various Oss anyway, then you have plenty to go around. Of course that also costs a cool $300 per year. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:24 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] VM for different versions of Access Hi Martin, Given that I have a full XP Pro installation on my computer (with all the updates), is there any way to share that OS with a Virtual Machine? Or, would I take my installation CDs (that came with my computer), and copy them into a folder to be shared? Right now, I feel a little bit like Alice after she fell down the rabbit hole. Each solution seems to have a catch I can't quite get around. I don't have multiple licenses for my Windows XP Pro. I do have an older Windows XP Home lying around somewhere, and I have Win98 still installed on one machine. For helping my client, I may be better off just installing Access 97 on my Win98 machine - if that isn't going to ruin my Access 2K already installed on that machine. Or, do I dare install Access 97 on my Windows XP Pro machine? I've casually read a few of the threads about multiple Access versions installed on the same machine, but I didn't pay a lot of attention, because I didn't need to know at that time. Still falling down the rabbit hole, eager for any assistance before the Red Queen orders my head be chopped off!! Thanks, Tina Martin W Reid wrote: > I just installed a server farm at home using Virtual PC on an external Hard Drive. Made it up as I went along but now have a SharePoint server VM up and running. > > To answer your question I think? > > You can download fully working Virtual Machine but in the case of > Windows you simply treat it as another physical machine and install every thing from the ground up. You will have to have a copy of XP or Visa to install as the OS on the Virtual PC. You will also need a licence for the OS on the VM and for everything you put on it. > > You can put the XP installation files on the host machine and then > simply share the folder with the Virtual PC thats how I did it. I did find after the OS was installed everything installed better if the install files when run directly on the VM. > > Martin > > > Martin WP Reid > Information Services > Queen's University > Riddel Hall > 185 Stranmillis Road > Belfast > BT9 5EE > Tel : 02890974465 > Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com