[dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...

Lembit Soobik lembit.dbamail at t-online.de
Fri May 30 06:52:41 CDT 2008


thanks, Steve.

doing image backups to DVD is no magic, is it?
so if that path works, I much prefer it.

OTOH, your step 3 sounds like requiring black magic?
"Unhook the new PC's C: drive from its internal
> controllers and just let it sit there unpowered for a while. (I'm not
> sure whether the new PC should be booted with just the new IDE
> controller card installed."

are you going to try that?

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...


> Lembit, Jon, and Jim L.,
>
> Our network administrator at work had good things to say about
> Acronis.  However he seemed to think that to really get the "restore
> the system to dissimilar hardware" to work right, one needed to do
> image backups onto DVD.  That's what he said.
>
> He did offer an alternative, though, one that might just do the trick.
> Here's the routine (assuming IDE drives...but it's similar for SATA):
>
> 1) Install a new IDE controller card in the old PC and make sure the
> current drivers are installed.
>
> 2) Shut down the old PC, disconnect the C: drive (the one you want to
> transfer to the new box) from the internal IDE controller, wire it up
> to the new IDE controller, and fire up the old PC to ensure that the
> C: drive will boot from the new controller.  Shut down.
>
> 3) Install that same new IDE controller card in the NEW PC along with
> the old C: drive.  Unhook the new PC's C: drive from its internal
> controllers and just let it sit there unpowered for a while. (I'm not
> sure whether the new PC should be booted with just the new IDE
> controller card installed.  I'm not clear on whether the ROMs in the
> PC are supposed to recognize the new hardware first...if that's even
> something that normally happens.  Does the hard disk store all the
> configuration information?)
>
> 4) Fire up the NEW PC.  The old disk drive SHOULD boot from that new
> IDE controller.  Then Windows on the old drive will detect that
> there's new hardware that requires drivers: sound, video, etc.  The
> key to all this is that the drive should "know" about the controller
> it's hooked to.  All the other drivers are secondary to the disk
> controller.  If the boot drive already has drivers for that particular
> controller then it should be happy to boot from it and the rest of the
> drivers can be installed when the "new hardware detected" messages
> appear.
>
> 5) Once all the drivers are installed, the old drive should be ready
> to go as the main boot drive in the new system with all the old
> programs in place and ready to go.
>
> 6) Finally, reconnect the new drive in a slave mode, use Casper (our
> net admin's favorite) to clone the old drive onto the new one, unhook
> the old drive and set the new drive to be the master, and fire up the
> new PC with its newly cloned new drive...and Bob's your uncle, Fanny's
> your aunt.
>
> All of this is simpler if one uses SATA drives, but the fact that it
> appears possible with plain old IDE drives is very encouraging...all
> for the cost of an IDE controller and Casper.
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
> USA
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Lembit Soobik
> <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> wrote:
>> look at "Acronis true image echo workstation". it might do the job, but I
>> have not tested it.
>> from their site:
>> "
>> An ideal solution for backup and disaster recovery of the entire office
>> network or a local computer, Acronis(R) True Image EchoT Workstation 
>> gives you
>> many options, including the ability to backup an entire system or 
>> individual
>> files or folders; perform a disaster recovery backup or restore files,
>> folders, or an entire disk from an image; manage backup/restore tasks
>> remotely; restore the system to dissimilar hardware; and much more. 
>> Download
>> Free Trial now
>>
>> "
>> and if you try it, let me know how it works
>>
>> Lembit
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Hardware and Software issues"
>> <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:16 AM
>> Subject: [dba-Tech] Really and for true, how can I...
>>
>>
>>> ...take a perfectly good, bootable IDE hard disk from one PC that's
>>> seen better days and mount it in a new PC with a new hard disk, and
>>> make the old drive boot the new PC?  I mean, really.  Are we forever
>>> doomed to having to re-install every bleeping bit of software on a new
>>> PC?
>>>
>>> I ask because it can become very problematical to re-install some
>>> software if there never was a CD for it.  Besides the fact that it
>>> could take hours and hours to go through the routine and download all
>>> the farging upgrades to get everything on the new system to the point
>>> that it's as usable as the old PC.
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