[dba-Tech] [dba-OT] (no subject)

Bill Patten bill_patten at embarqmail.com
Sun Nov 30 14:33:14 CST 2008


Hi Rocky,

In addition to what Jon said, I believe (I don't know this for sure so you 
might check it out) that most hubs will transfer at the speed of the slowest 
connection, so that if you plug in 2 1G's and a 10/100 everything will be 
100, a switch isolates each connection so that the 2 1G's can transfer at 
the 1G speed and if you are transferring to the 10/100 everything travels at 
100. I'm sure that there are people here that can let us know if I'm wrong.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
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Bill:

Thanks for all the replies.  What's the difference between a switch and a
hub?

Best,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten
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I bought this switch at Fry's for $45 a couple of months ago, here is one
for $29

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2
201255

Bill
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OK I was a good boy, put a password on.  So now I can connect to Vista box
from another box.   Then I discovered the Vista switch which requires users
to enter a password to get on the Vista machine.  Turned that off and now
I'm no longer prompted for a password .  Closer and closer.

Now if I could just figure out what's wrong with that hub and get the last
machine on the LAN.  Which isn't too important.  It's an old P3 which I put
upstairs at Max's old workstation.  When he comes back he'll have his laptop
and wireless.  So he'll be able to work.  Still I'd like to get that last
bit working.

BTW, At the moment, the modem goes into the hub.  Hub goes to router.  Not
sure why I have it that way but since it's working I'm reluctant to start
switching things around.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:47 AM
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Getting closer.  The problem is now (I think) that I have only four ports on
my router and I need 5.  So one of the ports is connected to a hub.  The hub
seems to be the problem.  It's working because the modem is connected to the
hub.  So I put Vista into the router and now everybody connected to the
router can see Vista and Vista can see everybody.  Some of them can't browse
the others' drive but that's a permission problem which I can probably track
down.

However, when I click on Vista machine from another machine I get a dialog
box asking for User name and password.

When I did the restore to get a clean system I set up Rocky as a user
account - I'm administrator - with no password.  However, blank passwords
are not allowed.  Now what do I do?

TIA



Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of dickford1 at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:25 AM
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Heh! One of the LAST places one tends to look, too...when there's an install
issue.

Gad! I remember well the days of the Centronics cables...

Dickford


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
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Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:46 am
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BAD NETWORK CABLE !!!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com



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Make sure you don't have a max # of addresses that the router will hand out.

 Maybe it got on before the others, which would account for why it  only
made it on breifly.  When you reset everything and everybody, maybe  all the
addresses were already used by the time the Vista machine tried to  get it's
address assigned.

Donna

In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:54:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
garykjos at gmail.com writes:

I  thought of one other thing to watch for....

When you bring up your  browser, do the router or network switch lights
blink at all to show  activity? That was what showed me that I wasn't even
getting out of the  Vista box and to focus there.

Good luck. My guess is it will be a small  change to make it work. Kind of
like finding the needle in the haystack  though. I thought I was going to go
through it again when I added a gigabit  ethernet card to the Vista box - I
don't name my boxes very well, it's  called Duocore - and had to switch over
from the onboard ethernet to the  add in card one. Take small steps is all I
can advise as I don't remember  what exactly I did but it is working now.

GK

On Sun, Nov 30,  2008 at 1:26 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  Software
<rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Dear  Lists:
>
> I got a Vista machine from my father-in-law (compulsive  hardware
> buyer - he has about 12 machines and an equal number of  printers -
> gave me a color laser as well - he had 2 - wasn't using  either.  He's
> 85.  But I
digress..).
> I used the restore disk  so it's a clean machine - just like out of
> the
box.
>
> The Vista  machine can't see the network or the internet.  I got it on
> the  intern
et briefly by shutting down the modem and router and the
> Vista
machine
> (per advice in diagnose and repair), but that hosed the  network
> connections for the other machines.  So I shut everybody  down, cycled
> the modem and router.  Now everybody is back except  the Vista machine.
>
> I see that there's two type of networks -  public and private.  This
> one is set to public.  Don't know  what that's all about.
>
> Diagnose and repair also has options to  automatically get new IP setting,
> and reset the network adapter.   Neither worked.  But the one time I was
able
> to find the dialog  box with the IP address I see that it's not a
> 192.168.1.xxx like the  rest of the machines on the network.  But I
> cannot
to
> save me  find that dialog box again.
>
> But I'm guessing that's the  problem - not picking up a good network
> address from the  router.
>
> In the Local Area Connection Status it shows many  packets send - zero
> received.
>
> Now you'd think that  Vista would be able to do this by itself.  But
> apparently  not.
>
> BTW - I turned off the Windows Firewall just to eliminate  that variable.
> And no other AV or firewall software is  running.
>
> What am I overlooking?  Is there something  simple that gets this
> Vista box on my LAN and out to the  internet?
>
>
>
> MTIA,



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