Peter Brawley
peter.brawley at earthlink.net
Wed Apr 22 20:23:20 CDT 2009
Hi Steve, >"Meanwhile Sun this week coincidently announced the preview of the next >release -- My SQL 5.4, which it says will be far more scalable than >the current version." Yeah, /says/. The first release of 5.4 /is/ a sparse & unimpressive patchwork, though. And as Schwartz implies, why would Ellison help MySQL improve its upward scalability into the Oracle market sector? PB ----- Steve Erbach wrote: > Arthur, > > FWIW, commentary from SQL Pro Insight magazine: > > What Will Oracle Do With MySQL? > Microsoft and SQL Server are the real targets, not IBM. > > By Jeffrey Schwartz > > While there is no shortage of questions surrounding what Oracle has in > store for Sun Microsystems, perhaps the most intriguing one is what > Oracle will do with MySQL. Will it live or will Oracle, which gains > MySQL as a result of its $7.4 billion acquisition of Sun, throw it > under the bus? > > There is plenty of reason to believe Oracle would not want to in any > way, shape or form let MySQL cannibalize the licensing revenues Oracle > has enjoyed for so many years from its flagship proprietary database > platform. There's the school of thought that Oracle doesn't walk the > walk when it comes to open source. > > "While Oracle has displayed an ability to participate in and benefit > from open source software, I think its expectations and aspirations > for open source software are limited," wrote 451Group analyst Jay > Lyman. > > But lest we forget, while Oracle CEO Larry Ellison talks up how > acquiring Sun is a key entre for Oracle to further its assault on IBM, > his real nemesis is Microsoft. While it is unlikely MySQL was a huge > factor (perhaps not even a reason at all) in Oracle's decision to make > its surprise bid, the company's decision to put some emphasis on the > open source database could be an opportunity to go after Microsoft in > a way it could never do with its flagship database. > > In fact, that's exactly what MySQL founder Marten Mickos told Forbes > yesterday, arguing they serve two different application types. > "Microsoft's database business is the fastest growing," Mickos told > Forbes. "Oracle can use MySQL to achieve a stronger developer > community." > > Forrester analyst Noel Yuhanna agrees. "If Oracle plays its cards > right, this could be a great move, since it continues to struggle > against Microsoft SQL Server especially in the small- to > moderate-sized database market, where Microsoft SQL Server enjoys > dominance," Yuhanna said in an e-mail. "A combination of MySQL and > Oracle DBMS can cover all bases, and put MySQL against Microsoft SQL > Server more competitively. Also, we see that as databases become more > automated (which is already happening), the need for tighter > integration with hardware and bundling will further grow -- therefore > having a database appliance (database machine) will become critical." > > While the installed base of MySQL pales in comparison to SQL Server, > Microsoft is well aware of the momentum around it and the open source > database movement, especially for lower-end Web applications. That's > why Microsoft has developed its own PHP Driver for SQL Server and last > month released its PHP on Windows Training Kit, which includes > technical material, best practices and code samples for building PHP > applications that run on Windows, IIS 7 and SQL Server 2008. > > "Microsoft is going after those folks in a pretty serious way," said > Andrew Brust, a director of new technology at twenty six New York, and > a Microsoft regional director. "Read what you want into that but it > shows how seriously Microsoft takes MySQL." > > While most MySQL applications are PHP-based, it also supports .NET > applications, Brust noted. "MySQLhas done a pretty good job at working > nicely with Windows and ADO.NET," he said. "But I think by and large > it is PHP developers." > > According to Sun's internal surveys, SQL Server is the number one > platform that customers migrate from when moving to MySQL, said Robin > Schumacher, MySQL's director of product management. "People using > MySQL on Windows makes a very nice alternative to SQL Server," > Schumacher said. For enterprise implementations, Linux is still the > largest platform for MySQL "but Windows is right behind it," he added. > > "They have to see the value of MySQL in the ability for it to continue > to gain on the SQL Server marketplace," added Ian Abramson, president > of Independent Oracle Users Group (IOUG) and a director at > Toronto-based Thoughtcorp, a data warehousing and BI consultancy, who > said the Oracle user community welcomes MySQL joining the fold. > > Meanwhile Sun this week coincidently announced the preview of the next > release -- My SQL 5.4, which it says will be far more scalable than > the current version. > > What impact do you think Oracle's acquisition of Sun will have on > MySQL, open source databases and SQL Server? Drop me a line at > jschwartz at 1105media.com. > > > Jeffrey Schwartz is editor of ADTmag.com and news editor of Visual > Studio Magazine. > > Regards, > > Steve Erbach > Neenah, WI > http://www.NeenahPolitics.com > http://www.TheTownCrank.com > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Today the announcement became official. See >> http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp. >> >> Arthur >> _______________________________________________ >> > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 > >