[dba-Tech] Oracle to Buy Sun

Peter Brawley peter.brawley at earthlink.net
Wed Apr 22 20:23:20 CDT 2009


Hi Steve,

 >"Meanwhile Sun this week coincidently announced the preview of the next
 >release -- My SQL 5.4, which it says will be far more scalable than
 >the current version."

Yeah, /says/. The first release of 5.4 /is/ a sparse & unimpressive 
patchwork, though. And as Schwartz implies, why would Ellison help MySQL 
improve its upward scalability into the Oracle market sector?

PB

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Steve Erbach wrote:
> Arthur,
>
> FWIW, commentary from SQL Pro Insight magazine:
>
> What Will Oracle Do With MySQL?
> Microsoft and SQL Server are the real targets, not IBM.
>
> By Jeffrey Schwartz
>
> While there is no shortage of questions surrounding what Oracle has in
> store for Sun Microsystems, perhaps the most intriguing one is what
> Oracle will do with MySQL. Will it live or will Oracle, which gains
> MySQL as a result of its $7.4 billion acquisition of Sun, throw it
> under the bus?
>
> There is plenty of reason to believe Oracle would not want to in any
> way, shape or form let MySQL cannibalize the licensing revenues Oracle
> has enjoyed for so many years from its flagship proprietary database
> platform. There's the school of thought that Oracle doesn't walk the
> walk when it comes to open source.
>
> "While Oracle has displayed an ability to participate in and benefit
> from open source software, I think its expectations and aspirations
> for open source software are limited," wrote 451Group analyst Jay
> Lyman.
>
> But lest we forget, while Oracle CEO Larry Ellison talks up how
> acquiring Sun is a key entre for Oracle to further its assault on IBM,
> his real nemesis is Microsoft. While it is unlikely MySQL was a huge
> factor (perhaps not even a reason at all) in Oracle's decision to make
> its surprise bid, the company's decision to put some emphasis on the
> open source database could be an opportunity to go after Microsoft in
> a way it could never do with its flagship database.
>
> In fact, that's exactly what MySQL founder Marten Mickos told Forbes
> yesterday, arguing they serve two different application types.
> "Microsoft's database business is the fastest growing," Mickos told
> Forbes. "Oracle can use MySQL to achieve a stronger developer
> community."
>
> Forrester analyst Noel Yuhanna agrees. "If Oracle plays its cards
> right, this could be a great move, since it continues to struggle
> against Microsoft SQL Server especially in the small- to
> moderate-sized database market, where Microsoft SQL Server enjoys
> dominance," Yuhanna said in an e-mail. "A combination of MySQL and
> Oracle DBMS can cover all bases, and put MySQL against Microsoft SQL
> Server more competitively. Also, we see that as databases become more
> automated (which is already happening), the need for tighter
> integration with hardware and bundling will further grow -- therefore
> having a database appliance (database machine) will become critical."
>
> While the installed base of MySQL pales in comparison to SQL Server,
> Microsoft is well aware of the momentum around it and the open source
> database movement, especially for lower-end Web applications. That's
> why Microsoft has developed its own PHP Driver for SQL Server and last
> month released its PHP on Windows Training Kit, which includes
> technical material, best practices and code samples for building PHP
> applications that run on Windows, IIS 7 and SQL Server 2008.
>
> "Microsoft is going after those folks in a pretty serious way," said
> Andrew Brust, a director of new technology at twenty six New York, and
> a Microsoft regional director. "Read what you want into that but it
> shows how seriously Microsoft takes MySQL."
>
> While most MySQL applications are PHP-based, it also supports .NET
> applications, Brust noted. "MySQLhas done a pretty good job at working
> nicely with Windows and ADO.NET," he said. "But I think by and large
> it is PHP developers."
>
> According to Sun's internal surveys, SQL Server is the number one
> platform that customers migrate from when moving to MySQL, said Robin
> Schumacher, MySQL's director of product management. "People using
> MySQL on Windows makes a very nice alternative to SQL Server,"
> Schumacher said. For enterprise implementations, Linux is still the
> largest platform for MySQL "but Windows is right behind it," he added.
>
> "They have to see the value of MySQL in the ability for it to continue
> to gain on the SQL Server marketplace," added Ian Abramson, president
> of Independent Oracle Users Group (IOUG) and a director at
> Toronto-based Thoughtcorp, a data warehousing and BI consultancy, who
> said the Oracle user community welcomes MySQL joining the fold.
>
> Meanwhile Sun this week coincidently announced the preview of the next
> release -- My SQL 5.4, which it says will be far more scalable than
> the current version.
>
> What impact do you think Oracle's acquisition of Sun will have on
> MySQL, open source databases and SQL Server? Drop me a line at
> jschwartz at 1105media.com.
>
>
> Jeffrey Schwartz is editor of ADTmag.com and news editor of Visual
> Studio Magazine.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
> http://www.NeenahPolitics.com
> http://www.TheTownCrank.com
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Today the announcement became official. See
>> http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp.
>>
>> Arthur
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