Max Wanadoo
max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Fri Aug 14 07:39:06 CDT 2009
Mmm, I think you are right Stuart. All an auto-mated system can do is look at properties and make decisions based on what they "think" the user might want. Very hard to see how to automate intuition and creativity based on tables and data structures. I think it was Dijkstra who said "Program = Data Structures + Algorithms." Hard to see how they can do very much with one element of the equation apart from a maint routine. Max -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: 14 August 2009 01:28 To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Generate Complete Web 2.0 Applications in Minutes! Here's a case study they are pushing as a success story in their latest newsletter: http://www.ironspeed.com/profiles/MohannadAmr_SMS.aspx?c=Catapult Relevant extracts: <quote> The application accesses one Microsoft SQL Server 2005 database comprised of more than 90 tables and 10 database views. The application contains approximately 100 web pages ... The School Management System took three team members, three months to implement. The Iron Speed Designer portion of the project took two developers and a system analyst two calendar months to complete. ... Several code customizations were required for this project, a few being: Email alerts Audit trail Interlinked menus Text concatenation Passing Parameters Password encryption We spent about two weeks writing a few hundred lines of custom code. No third-party components were required for successful implementation of the School Management System. </quote> I'd suspect it took so long to write the few hundred lines of custom code because it took them a week and a half to work out where to put it in the mash up of HTML pages :-) Hardly "Complete Web 2.0 Applications in Minutes! " -- Stuart On 14 Aug 2009 at 10:06, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > I downloaded a trial version of IronSpeed some time ago and still get their promotional > emails. > > You point it at a database and it builds a huge CRUD interface to all of the tables in it. It > essentially create lots and lots of HTML pages - each one for a specific data maintenance > task. When they say "Write 10,000 Lines of Code in 10 Minutes!", it's true - what they don't > say is that isn't you need in your application and you need to clean it all out before starting > the real work. > > If you just want to Create, Read, Update, Delete records in all of your tables, it saves you a > lot of time hand coding the interfaces. It certainly can't build a real world application for you. > > > -- > Stuart > > On 13 Aug 2009 at 23:18, Max Wanadoo wrote: > > > Can this possibly be true? > > > > http://www.devx.com/IronSpeedVS/Door/17479 > > > > > > Max > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com