Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Nov 5 22:16:26 CST 2009
Actually it can be... it is just how you control it through your office or extend it further. Regardless of how web applications are used, they are all thin-client (though a healthy set of JavaScript can extend it far beyond just thin client) and the internal designs and deployment are absolutely identical. It is not just cloud computing... it is communications whether it is external or internal. I am sure you have email, Google map, time clocks, weather forecasting, stock feeds, mini vids and zip code lookup routines running from you desktop programs. If you gave me appropriate money I could convert virtually any of your client's desktop programs to web designed application deliveried via some Apache, IIS or Streaming server box onsite or extend it to some remote country. The internet is what the WWW runs on and it can be used in many ways. My friend was actually connecting via a term server connection, off his Mac. And to summarize; as I just can not say it better than you: "...they are just thin client applications that use an HTTP server and a browser as the front end - nothing at all to do with the "World Wide Web" other than that they use the same technology." ;-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:16 PM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Complete connectivity, centralized data and geo-aware The article you first referred to was about World Wide Web based applications and "the cloud" etc. Now you are talking about something different. Your examples which run on intranets and use their own in house data stores are not "web based", they are just thin client applications that use an HTTP server and a browser as the front end - nothing at all to do with the "World Wide Web" other than that they use the same technology. I doubt very much that your friend used "the web" to move that file. The World Wide Web is not the Internet - and vice versa. -- Stuart On 5 Nov 2009 at 18:16, Jim Lawrence wrote: > You do not have to have external internet access to be able to run a web > based application. Most of the companies that I have helped build web apps > for run them on their intranet. Most banks are in the process of upgrading > and run either web apps or Citrix based programs... all through virtual > pipes linked straight to command center. Web access can be completely > controlled through configured Cisco routers where all but one or two IP > addresses are blocked. > > Franchises that are in the process of converting are companies like > Superstore, Wal-Mart, Costco, Stables, Future Shop, Sony, McDonalds and a > host of smaller chains. Many are working out special arrangement with Google > and other web based giants. > > It just makes them extremely flexible and the programs can run on any > platforms the company may have... from DOS to Windows to MAC to Linux, on > servers and on stations. The companies do not have to continually be > upgrading their hardware to be able to handle the latest and greatest. > > Managers and specialized offsite home and travelling staff may have special > remote access. The other plus is that all the data is live and real-time > everywhere and can backed up virtually instantaneously. > > These companies are ultra-security conscience and even I have to have a > special time-limited passes that may be couriered to me through over night > delivery just to have access to their server rooms or privileged access to > their business desktops. > > An interesting aside: > I have a friend that does a lot of business for Honda, out of Japan, > developing internal advertisement material and pamphlets. Japan is almost > completely linked by fiber-optic cables. It was great to watch him remotely > drag a 15GB file from some server in a place like Sayama and drop it on a > server in Tokyo (that is not the head quarters but the name escapes me). It > was as if they were merely directories on the same computer. Just a brief > moment of confirmation and done... > > All their internal manuals, brochures, advertisement and announcement are > delivered via web based applications. > > Times are changing Stuart. > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:12 PM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Complete connectivity, centralized data and > geo-aware > > Your's maybe - not mine. I develop *business* solutions, not Web 2.0 crap. > > > Not all of us live in areas where web based applications are even possible, > let alone > preferable. > > Many organisations don't let their staff have internet access for all sorts > of valid reasons. > > Very few organisations that I know about are prepared to trust their > corporate data to an > anonymous "cloud". > > One day maybe, but certainly not in the next few years. > > -- > Stuart > > On 5 Nov 2009 at 6:58, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Hi All: > > > > As our web technology continues to mature it has become apparent that your > > next big application will not be desktop but web based. If you need any > more > > proof link and read the attached article: > > > > > http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/web/what-your-web-apps-will-be-like-i > > n-2014-646680 > > > > A lot of research was made to gather references to various emerging and > > stabilizing technologies... well worth the read. > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com