Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Sat Feb 6 16:15:58 CST 2010
Oh yes ofcourse... Jim -----Original Message----- From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:48 AM To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for spam lists Hello Jim, I am not sure if I understand your question. When I talk of migrating them to gmail, I am referring to Google Apps Email system (based on the gmail engine) does that answer your question? thanks Mark On 6 February 2010 15:56, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > How do you resolve the email address so it reads: > > george at GeorgesDomain.com > > ...instead of... > > george at gmail.com > > ? > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:29 AM > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for > spam lists > > Hello Guys, > > Thank you all for your input, this was useful. > > I looked up the domain name and yes, it is on one of the blacklists. IIUC, > It is actually the smtp server that is on the blacklist, and not the domain > or the IP address my customer is assigned. > > In that case, I have options of > > a) switch smtp servers > b) switch to google apps for the email serving. > > I favor Google apps because I can then cease to use Exchange (they have > only > 5 employees) and I do not have to worry about restoring Exchange in the > event of a disaster. I may have mentioned here that I recently installed > two USB disks for alternating offs-site backups. I also mentioned that I > installed TrueCrypt on the two disks. All that works well, but I have to > use Veritas BackupExec to backup the Exchange folders and I fear having to > do a restore of that stuff. > > Is this the golden opportunity to move the email off exchange and onto > Google Apps? > If so, they may opt to continue to use Outlook as the mail client, which is > fine. > However, what about calendars. Has anyone here used Outlook as a email > client and attempted to interface the calender of outlook to the Google App > Calendar? > > TIA for input and comments. > > Mark > > > So that leaves me with a few options > > On 5 February 2010 18:45, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > > > It is possible that they got themselves blacklisted but ISPs use as much > > content appraisal to decide whether something is spam or otherwise. Some > of > > the criteria are: > > > > 1. A large batch of emails being sent being identical or almost > identical. > > That can be gotten around by as little as adding the recipients name to > the > > content of each email. > > 2. Particular content that says of implies drug or sexual content. I have > > had mail rejected that had three 'X' in a row. The mere mention of > children > > or youth can be a trigger. Then there is the possible mention of money > > which > > can also be a trigger. (Check their standard emails to see if there is > any > > possibility that their messages could misinterpreted.) > > 3. Very plain emails, ones without pictures or images or any professional > > layout imbedded may be considered suspect...or subject lines or body > > content > > that may appear coded. > > > > Other possibilities are that some computer within an organization may > have > > become compromised at one point and ended up being used as a zombie. This > > could get the whole address range blocked. Maybe someone at the site has > > been using the system to do load porn. > > > > If you suspect that the client is blacklisted you could check their > various > > main IPs against the following site: > > > > > > http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx?AG=GBL&gclid=CNyq8dzr258CFQYXagodlC > > DUGQ (watch for wrap...) If some of their IPs are found to be on any > > blacklist it will take a number of phones call to get their good name > > reinstated. > > > > HTH > > Jim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen > > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:24 AM > > To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues > > Subject: [dba-Tech] Seeking your advice regarding false positives for > spam > > lists > > > > Hello All, > > > > I have a customer with six employees. They are a government linked > > childcare related organisation. Their primary role in life is to > dispense > > funds to local pre-school child care businesses here in Ireland. > > > > They have been noticing that they often get told that their emails were > in > > the spam folder of their recipient. > > > > I did some tests yesterday sending from their email addresses to a few of > > my > > gmail accounts and all of their emails went to google's spam folder. > > > > Could they have gotton themselves onto a so called black list? > > Do such things really exist and is it really so easy to get on one of > these > > lists? > > I have to presume that if they exist and if you get on one, there is no > > easy > > way to get off such a list? > > If so, what do you suggest? Register a similar domain name and cease use > > of > > the old domain name? > > > > Thanks for your suggestions and comments. > > > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dba-Tech mailing list > > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ dba-Tech mailing list dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com