[dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups

Max Wanadoo max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Tue Jan 12 11:40:11 CST 2010


I have 2 x 1.5TB external USB drives. - circa £300 the lot!

OTT?

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tydda Jon -
Slough
Sent: 12 January 2010 17:20
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups

For a server backup on small scale, you want either a big NAS (Network
Attached Storage) or a tape drive with lots of tapes.

We've got Veritas Backup Exec v10, with a robot tape library that can hold
83 Ultrium 3 tapes (400-800gb per tape). We typically backup around 3tb a
night.

I realise that's probably overkill for Janet's requirements, but scale it
down a little and you can do it. An Ultrium 2 tape drive (an 8 tape carousel
would work), with a rotation of tapes (200-400gb) for daily, weekly, monthly
and annual backups would do the job perfectly.

The jobs aer totally customisable with Backup Exec, and pretty
straightforward to do. If you get stuck, there are plenty of forums and web
pages offering advice etc.

I don't know much about costs though, I don't do much on the server/hardware
side any more these days.


Jon


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From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:11 PM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups

Rocky,

On individual workstations I'm sure that just about ANY clone/image-type
program works just fine.  It's on a SERVER that the problems crop up.

>> this place sounds like an idea opportunity to get your foot in the
door by doing a lot of pro bono stuff for them. <<

If I knew something substantive about Windows Server maybe that would be
true.  This backup thing defeats me.

>> How's the job hunt going? <<

Nada.  I've officially applied for 94 jobs since I was downsized.  In 35
days it'll be one year since that event.  I'm more-or-less operating as a
sole proprietor again with two of my oldest clients keeping food on the
table.  The big question mark, of course, is what to do if a health
emergency happens.  No insurance to somewhat offset the possible huge
financial burden.  In a few months we'll be able, maybe, to afford private
insurance to cover serious hospitalization.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Rocky Smolin
<rockysmolin at bchacc.com>wrote:

> I have a real simple backup problem solved by using Norton Ghost on
> each machine with their own external HD.  I've had to restore specific
> files from the Ghost image, so I know that's working.  Don't know if
> the HD failed and I had to restore the whole image if it would work.
>
> But the product seems to be very stable.
>
> BTW, this place sounds like an idea opportunity to get your foot in
> the door by doing a lot of pro bono stuff for them.  How's the job
> hunt going?
>
> R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> Erbach
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:13 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups
>
> Dear Group,
>
> My wife, Janet, wrote a while back asking for advice on server backups.
>  She's the *de facto* system administrator where she works, a retail
> high-end natural food supplement store with a large Internet presence
> [ www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com].  I said "de facto" because she
> really has no experience with hardware or networking.  Databases,
> queries, a little web design, sure.  Trouble-shooting network and
> backup issues?  Yuck!
>
> Anyway, I've been, of course, privy to her continued struggles with
> the backup issues she's been having.  This all started when Janet's
> boss had a new server installed.  It's a Windows Small Business Server
2008 system.
>  That's a hybrid of Windows Server 2008 and SQL Server 2005.
>
> The company that installed the server had never installed Small
> Business Server 2008 before...but the co-owner of the computer company
> is a roommate of one of the boss's employees...so, lets give the kid a
chance, eh?
>
>
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