Mark Breen
marklbreen at gmail.com
Wed Jan 13 03:06:55 CST 2010
Hello All, I am reading this thread with baited breath. ( By they way, is that the correct spelling of baited, should it be bated, as in unabated. Haha, I just googled this question, and if you do not mind, I will leave it here for amusement http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-bai1.htm http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/bated-breath.html ) Back to the thread. First to Steve: you mentioned that you had to use an XP Cd to perform a repair / upgrade. Is that because the machine was Win98? Could you not have left it running as Win98. The reason I ask is I have an XP Laptop I want to P2V so I am wondering will I still need to dig out a XP disk, or if I am happy with the OS, can I use the tools you kindly recommdned and I will be good to go. To Bobby:My brother is trying to convince me to switch to VMWare instead of VM by MS, including the HyperV Services that I am happy with on W2k8. Do you think that VM ware is better, If so, should I try to install from scratch or can I load it on top of W2k8. I get the impression from a first pass on the VM ware site that there are two breeds of VM ware, on that installs over an existing OS and one that installs on a bare metal box - is that a correct assumption? If so, I have to assume that the bare metal box is much better. To All: This year I build a number of VM machines, Win2k3, 2k8, Vista, Win7, XP Pro etc. My experience was pretty much good. I can use them as IIS Servers, SQL Servers etc with no probs. However, when I try to use the Vista or the W7 machine as a Front End machine, IOW as a machine where the primary function is to server a fast GUI then I was dis-satasfied. IOW, I can use it for a few minutes or hours even, but when I was the sort of response time you get from a native machine, the VM was not giving it. Sure it can load MS word or VS2008, but I found small delays of 1/2 second to be tireseome when traversing VS2008 or SSMS etc. IOW, my personal summary was for rapid response from a GUI stick with physical machine, but the VM were really really good as a second choice. I built up a library of machine that I do not touch, and a second library that I use, but can delete and replace with the clean machine at anytime. One last thing, you can move machines from Virtual Server to HyperV, but you have to re-activate Windows when you move them. One other last thing, since I saw how good HyperV is, I do not wish to ever use Virtual Server again. AFAIK, HyperV requires W2k8 Hope someone benefits from this and you do not have to wait with bated breath again like me:) Mark 2010/1/13 Bobby Heid <bheid at sc.rr.com> > John, > > I used VMware Converter (http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/) to > convert my Vista64 PC using a Ghost 14 backup image to a VM with great > success. I think, from what I read, that doing V2PC for stuff other than > Vista is pretty easy. > > Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:31 AM > To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] New virtual drive > > Hi Steve, > What technique do you use for doing this? > > I am doing a job this week where I'm setting up VPC VMs on a new XP > machine. > > The client currently runs a number of DOS apps on a Win98 PC. > > My plans are to create a DOS VM and copy the DOS apps/files over to it and > see if I can skip Win98 altogether. But there may also be some little used > applications on this PC that may require Win98. The problem is that this is > a production machine and I can't have the time with it to determine this > until I get the apps/files/hardware all working for the DOS programs which > are vital to daily ops. Once that is accomplished I can determine if I need > to image the HD and create a Win98 VM. > > I was planning on using Acronis for imaging the HD and converting to a > Win98 > VM this but would welcome any suggestions. > > John B. > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > dba-Tech mailing list > dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >