[dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups

I do not know which Jim you are talking about but I do know there is a lot
of multiuser with multitasking going on in a Server and multiple services
which are not going on in a desktop. The only real way to do a full server
image is to go off-line. It is harder to shut down a server when a full
backup is needed as it is usually the core to any operation so that type of
work is usually late night work...

Most bigger companies, have multiple synced servers, which use hardware
syncing (RAID 7) so that one or more servers can be down when a full image
is needed to be performed. (Most IT people, that I have ran in to, do not
trust these shadow backup applications to do a full or complete job on a
server.) 

It seems that companies are more concerned with their data than with the
actual server OS. 

One more point that a lot of first time Techs do not understand is that if
you use Active directory you need a backup server that is also using Active
directory to sync. Otherwise in the event of a server crash there is no way
to recover AD... other than full install from scratch... all groups,
policies, services passwords etc must then be reinstalled. 

My understanding is that the small business server can not sync Active
Directories among its other faults. I used that package once and never again
so I am not in a position to either recommend or condemn its latest
versions.

Jim
  

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:50 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups

Yeah,  yeah, marketing scam or reality.  Where is Jim?  He will know.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: 12 January 2010 17:27
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups

Max,

Well, that's a good question.  Apparently there *IS* a difference.  Casper
and Acronis sell versions specifically for servers.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why is a  server any different?
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
> Sent: 12 January 2010 17:11
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups
>
> Rocky,
>
> On individual workstations I'm sure that just about ANY clone/image-type
> program works just fine.  It's on a SERVER that the problems crop up.
>
> >> this place sounds like an idea opportunity to get your foot in the
> door by doing a lot of pro bono stuff for them. <<
>
> If I knew something substantive about Windows Server maybe that would be
> true.  This backup thing defeats me.
>
> >> How's the job hunt going? <<
>
> Nada.  I've officially applied for 94 jobs since I was downsized.  In 35
> days it'll be one year since that event.  I'm more-or-less operating as a
> sole proprietor again with two of my oldest clients keeping food on the
> table.  The big question mark, of course, is what to do if a health
> emergency happens.  No insurance to somewhat offset the possible huge
> financial burden.  In a few months we'll be able, maybe, to afford private
> insurance to cover serious hospitalization.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
>
>
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