[dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups

Mark Breen marklbreen at gmail.com
Sat Jan 16 04:45:27 CST 2010


Hello Guys,

Sorry, I thought I mentioned the software, it is google apps.

Have a look on www.google.com/a

Here is my very quick low down on this suite of products

1) Two editions, standard and premium.  Standard is free and I am using it
now for 3.5 years and it is perfect.
2) It provides corporate standard email, though the gmail interface,
yourname at yourdomain.xx
3) It provides website site hosting
4) It provides online website design software
5) It provides navigation tool for your webpages
6) There are thousands of gadgets you can plug into your pages, including
maps, youtube, rss feeds etc
7) It provides POP access for the email as well, if you want
8) It provides domain level docs and spreadsheets
9) It provides calendar sharing.
10) no more exchange, no more pst files, no more hosting charges, no more
backups
11) it is all FREE


On the downside
The software is easy to use, and is designed for the home user,
unfortunately, it takes quite some some to become familiar enough with it
for it to become easy to use, IOW, it is supposed to be easy to use, but the
average user may not climb the hurdle to realise actually how easy it is.

This software is a replacement for exchange and outlook, and enormous
benefits to the small business.

All by Google, all free and all robust.

*Three ways to start using it*
a) register a new domain with your registrar of choice, then create the
google apps account, then point your new domain to the google apps account

b) register a new domain though the integrated service that google provide
and they do the linking for you, no extra cost, easier to do, but I prefer
to manage my own domains.

c) if you have an existing domain, you create the google account then change
your DNS for your existing domain to point to the google service.


*Email Only Or Web Only*
If you have a website hosted already and want to keep it,  you can still
switch to google apps for your email and docs, in this case, you modify the
MX Records for the email, but do not map the www cname for your site.  This
is also easy to do, and works a treat.

You could also keep your email on exchange and use google apps for your web
site design and hosting.

If I can answer more questions, please ask.

Thanks

Mark




2010/1/16 Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>

> Mark,
>
> I think it is an outstanding site.  Showed it  to the  girls at work and
> they loved it.
>
> Can you divulge the software you use?  I wouldn’t mind trying that myself.
>
> Ta
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: 16 January 2010 10:01
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups
>
> 90 minutes, Max, and she has corporate email for employees (1 at the
> moment)
> and she can maintain the site herself for ever more, and it only costs €7
> .95 per year to renew the domain.
>
> I hate to see small business spending €500 - €1000 per year, over a five
> year period for websites that bring them no real value.  I always tell
> them,
> for €500 you can give it to someone else and you avoid a day of struggling
> with a web design concept, but for €5000, would you re-consider.
>
> Assuming they will be in business in five years, thats what it will cost,
> and what I propose on Google apps costs nothing, zero euro :)
>
> I love it.
>
> I set up 17 websites with this system in four hours last year, admittedly
> they were all the same look and feel, but every site had two pages
> including
> contact us.
>
> Thanks for looking at it Max,
>
> Mark
>
>
> 2010/1/15 Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
>
> > Mark,
> > That is brilliant. You cannot please some people however.
> > I think you have done a fantastic job there.
> > Max
> >
> >
> > On 15/01/2010, Mark Breen <marklbreen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hey, Nice one John,
> > >
> > > It is nice to be able to help people and nice when they appreciate it.
> > >
> > > I spoke to a lady before Christmas that has just opened a shoe shop, in
> > the
> > > middle of a recession.  Her products are lovely and when I asked about
> > her
> > > website, she said she did not have one.  So I came home and in 90
> minutes
> > > registered the domain, created the following website
> www.stripeshoes.netand
> > > created the user and email accounts for her to use.  It is not a €1000
> > > website, but it is free and if she maintains it for five years is will
> > cost
> > > €0 over a five year period.
> > >
> > > I think that fact is lost on this lady however, and unfortunately, does
> > not
> > > really seem happy with it.
> > >
> > > Whats your opinion, is it terrible, awful or OK for a small one person
> > > ladies shoe shop, which ultimately will require a visit to the store.
>  I
> > did
> > > tell her that she has to fill in more text, more pics and more product
> > > details, as I do not know much about ladies shoes :)
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2010/1/14 John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>
> > >
> > >> I have been so lucky so far with this. I had a meeting a few days ago
> > with
> > >> a
> > >> client who is in trouble. I have been bartering with him since his
> > >> restaurant has the best food in the area. He actually said he wanted
> to
> > >> settle up with me rather than risk me not getting my fair share back!
> > But
> > >> I
> > >> do share your concerns and welcome your advice - thanks.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> > Lawrence
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:18 PM
> > >> To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'
> > >> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Once and for all time: server backups
> > >>
> > >> Watch out for potential bankruptcies, or client's holding off paying
> > >> invoices... In some cases I have put a client on a monthly payment
> plan
> > so
> > >> to stretch out the some large bills. The clients are happy, you get
> paid
> > >> (at
> > >> least most) and if they do get through the dip they are your client
> for
> > >> life.
> > >>
> > >> Jim
> > >>
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