[dba-Tech] Web site (was: Once and for all time: server backups)

Hello Jim,

Speaking generally now, not related to any single website:
I acknowledge everything you say below Jim, and I know it is true, but I
cannot bear to spend time on stuff that may not give a return.  This site
needs more time, probably another 5 hours or so, but after that, I think it
is into diminishing returns.

If she offered to pay for 40 - 80 hours, I would not really be interested,
primarily because I do not think that the ROI is there for her.  She needs a
web presence, sure, but as was mentioned earlier, the web presence is
primarily, address, phone number and possibly opening hours, although in
this case, they are assumed by all to be 09:00 - 18:00 Mon to Sat.

I often steer away from projects where I do not believe there is a real ROI,
such I might get a quick buck, but unless the customer is going to make
increase money from my work, I will ultimately not get additional work.

Thanks

Mark

2010/1/16 Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>

> Your site is excellent...
>
> I agree with Gustav on his comments though.
>
> What costs most and takes longest in any web site is the graphics and the
> design, especially if the client has a specific concept in mind. I find
> that
> the assembly of a layout, for a site may only take an evening but arriving
> at the right layout may take a few of days and the graphics can take a long
> time especially if they have to be processed in Photoshop... last site I
> did
> took over a week to do the graphics... Then there is documentation that is
> associated the graphics as well as over-view docs... Some sites like some
> eye-candy like a nice Flash header... Now if the client wants the ability
> to
> keep the site fresh by being able to add and change graphics and doc that
> can be a lot more time. I have seen trivial sites take 2 weeks or more to
> do
> and the client has to be billed appropriately.
>
> On the other hand all businesses these days need a web presents whether
> they
> believe it or not. It is like the old 'Yellow' page ad or business card all
> rolled into one and that is not counting the online shopping potential.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:48 AM
> To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-Tech] Web site (was: Once and for all time: server
> backups)
>
> Hi Mark
>
> That may be what is missing: Some nice pictures from and of the shop.
> But they will cost here some money ... except if you are a first class
> photographer too!
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> marklbreen at gmail.com 16-01-2010 14:19 >>>
> Hello All,
>
> Just wanted to say thanks for all the nice things you all said about
> www.stripeshoes.net.
>
> The shoes are absolutely beautiful in her shop.
>
> As I always say - So little time, so many shoes !
>
> Mark
>
>
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